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    • wingtipundefined
      wingtip @wingtip
      last edited by wingtip

      @wingtip
      ok the mystery continues. I tried changing the command to M303 h1 s236 c5 and it says its starting but then cancels itself saying temperature not increasing.

      Then i went back to M303 T0 S236 c5 it doesnt heat up either. Now i cant get it to heat at all... the duet is putting out the 12vdc as measured by a multimeter.... ive been fighting this all day and im about to let it sit for another year or two for its bad behavior

      Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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      • weed2allundefined
        weed2all @wingtip
        last edited by weed2all

        @wingtip I'll use M303 T0 S236 no C parameter needed...have you run thru documentation...the C parameter is used in marlin firmware...reprap firmware don't use it

        https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m303-run-heater-tuning
        M303 H1 S236 is tunning for heater 1
        M303 T0 S236 is tunning for tool 1
        None of them using C parameter!

        https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @wingtip
          last edited by

          @wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:

          Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.3 (2022-10-05)
          Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.25
          Duet Web Control 3.2.2

          How did you update the firmware? You've got the latest firmware version, almost, but the rest hasn't been updated. That can cause some weird behaviour.

          I suggest you upload this single zip file to the system tab in DWC. That should get you updated all around.

          https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.4.4/Duet2and3Firmware-3.4.4.zip

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          • wingtipundefined
            wingtip @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @Phaedrux i have no clue im an idiot lol... but if what you say is true then that explains why i lost the ability to see the mesh level height map in the dwc.. I will upload that file momentarily...
            the reason why i had the c parameter in there is everytime i try to youtube search issues , the majority of videos are all centered around marlin but i thought the duet documents pages said same thing but obviously i was mistaken...

            Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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            • wingtipundefined
              wingtip @wingtip
              last edited by wingtip

              @wingtip
              Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)
              Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 3.4.4 (2022-10-20)
              Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.27
              Duet Web Control 3.4.4
              revo02.jpg
              still not heating up. going to see of the height map is working again real quick. EDIT: ummm did they do away with the heightmap visual in recent updates? Again until a few days ago i was on a much older version.

              Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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              • wingtipundefined
                wingtip @wingtip
                last edited by wingtip

                @wingtip
                Ok, im at a loss here. Since i do have 12 volts at the heater (so it must be starting to heat up) but the duet stops the tuning within a minute or so and says the temp isnt rising, i could only assume i had a break or intermittent connection from the thermistor to the main board. I verified all the thermistor wires were showing continuity through all break out boards and cable chains and to the mainboard. Still wont heat up and im just at a loss as to why it wont just heat up...

                According to the revo documentation here https://e3d-online.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409926923665-Revo-Six-RepRap-Firmware-Guide I did make a slight change to the line
                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 .
                My config had C7.06e-8
                I then re tried the m303 but with h1 instead of t0 and i got this... not sure if the info in the image will help diagnose anything. Im not even sure if that data is old data or from the 3 hour attempt at tuning earlier today...
                revo03.jpg

                Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @wingtip
                  last edited by

                  @wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:

                  I then re tried the m303 but with h1 instead of t0 and i got this...

                  According to the image you posted, you sent M301 H1, not M303 H1.

                  If the heater isn't heating, then it could be a wiring issue. Check the voltage at the connector. Alternatively or are you sure that you've got the 12 V version? If you have the 24V version but are only supplying it with 12V, that would also fail to heat up.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • wingtipundefined
                    wingtip @wingtip
                    last edited by wingtip

                    @wingtip good catch on the 301 vs the 303.. fat finger mistake i guess. however, as i stated before i verified i had 12 volts at heating element and verified all the connections from the thermistor back to the main board. I will retry the 303 again soon as i finish my breakfast lol...
                    Yes, it is the 12vt version of the revo.

                    EDIT: tried again with the 303 and still cancels tuning with message temp not increasing. Sigh

                    Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @wingtip
                      last edited by

                      @wingtip said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:

                      EDIT: ummm did they do away with the heightmap visual in recent updates? Again until a few days ago i was on a much older version.

                      It's a plugin now. You can enable it from the plugins tab.

                      https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Duet_Web_Control_Manual#plugins

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Can you post your full config.g?
                        Also please send M122 and M98 P"config.g" in the gcode console tab and copy and paste the results here.

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                        • wingtipundefined
                          wingtip @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux

                          m122
                          === Diagnostics ===
                          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.4.4 (2022-10-20 16:17:41) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                          Board ID: 08DGM-917NK-F2MS4-7JKD6-3SN6K-9GU4G
                          Used output buffers: 1 of 26 (23 max)
                          === RTOS ===
                          Static ram: 23860
                          Dynamic ram: 75584 of which 12 recycled
                          Never used RAM 12624, free system stack 176 words
                          Tasks: NETWORK(notifyWait,13.3%,242) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,223) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,363) DUEX(notifyWait,0.0%,24) MAIN(running,86.7%,438) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30), total 100.0%
                          Owned mutexes:
                          === Platform ===
                          Last reset 00:59:59 ago, cause: power up
                          Last software reset at 2022-10-23 03:36, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 12480, slot 2
                          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                          Error status: 0x00
                          Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                          Step timer max interval 0
                          MCU temperature: min 22.2, current 23.3, max 28.2
                          Supply voltage: min 11.9, current 12.0, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                          Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
                          Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
                          Driver 0: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 1: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 2: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 3: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 4: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 5: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 6: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 7: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 8: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 9: standstill, SG min n/a
                          Driver 10:
                          Driver 11:
                          Date/time: 2022-10-23 12:59:31
                          Cache data hit count 4294967295
                          Slowest loop: 32.55ms; fastest: 0.18ms
                          I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                          === Storage ===
                          Free file entries: 10
                          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                          SD card longest read time 1.1ms, write time 139.2ms, max retries 0
                          === Move ===
                          DMs created 83, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                          === MainDDARing ===
                          Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                          === AuxDDARing ===
                          Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                          === Heat ===
                          Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
                          === GCodes ===
                          Segments left: 0
                          Movement lock held by null
                          HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                          Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                          File is idle in state(s) 0
                          USB is idle in state(s) 0
                          Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                          Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                          Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                          LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                          Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                          Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                          Code queue is empty
                          === DueX ===
                          Read count 1, 0.02 reads/min
                          === Network ===
                          Slowest loop: 331.60ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
                          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                          = WiFi =
                          Network state is active
                          WiFi module is connected to access point
                          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                          WiFi firmware version 1.27
                          WiFi MAC address bc:dd:c2:89:a2:58
                          WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25232
                          WiFi IP address 192.168.1.7
                          WiFi signal strength -48dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                          Clock register 00002002
                          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                          Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                          • wingtipundefined
                            wingtip @wingtip
                            last edited by

                            @wingtip

                            m98
                            Error: M98: No P or R parameter

                            Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux said in Revo 6 PID tuning just hangs:

                              M98 P"config.g"

                              M98 P"config.g"

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                              • wingtipundefined
                                wingtip @wingtip
                                last edited by

                                @wingtip

                                ; config.g
                                ; executed by the firmware on start-up

                                ; general preferences

                                G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                M550 P"The Big One" ; set printer name

                                ; communications

                                M552 S1 ; enable network
                                M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
                                M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue

                                ; drives

                                M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes reverse
                                M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes reverse
                                M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes reverse
                                M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                                M569 P5 S0 ; physical drive 5 goes reverse

                                M584 X0:3 Y1 Z2:5 E4 ; set drive mapping

                                M92 X391.113 Y78.812 Z392.117 E397.022 ; set steps per mm
                                M203 X4000 Y4000 Z800 E6000 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M566 X300 Y300 Z180 E3000 P1 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                M201 X700 Y700 Z200 E3000 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                M906 X1400 Y1000 Z700 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                                M84 S30 ; set idle timeout

                                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

                                ; axis limits

                                M208 X0:655 Y0:440 Z0:400 ; set axes min/max

                                ; endstops

                                M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop+!e0stop" ; configure active-high endstops for low end on X
                                M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y

                                ; Z probe

                                M98 P"probe_config.g" ; configure Z probe by invoking gcode file

                                ; bed heater

                                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                M307 H0 R0.257 C549.0 D2.37 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0

                                ; tool heater

                                M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; define E1 temperature sensor (old v6 value C7.06e-8)
                                M950 H1 C"e1heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                M307 H1 R1.350 K0.427:0.039 D6.10 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V11.6 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit, (pidm303t0s236 not t1)
                                M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1

                                ; part cooling fan

                                M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                ; tool cooling fan

                                M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                ; tool 0

                                M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool axis offsets
                                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set tool active and standby temperatures
                                T0 ; set tool active

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                                • wingtipundefined
                                  wingtip @wingtip
                                  last edited by

                                  @wingtip

                                  ; probe_config.g
                                  ; called to configure Z probe

                                  M950 S0 C"duex.pwm3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch

                                  M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F150 T6000 ; set Z probe type to BLTouch and the dive height and speeds

                                  G31 P500 X0 Y35 Z1.95 ; set Z probe trigger value, offsets and trigger height

                                  Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                                  • wingtipundefined
                                    wingtip @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux

                                    M98 P"config.g"
                                    HTTP is enabled on port 80
                                    FTP is disabled
                                    TELNET is disabled

                                    Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      And you're sure the heater is connected to e1heat?

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                                      • wingtipundefined
                                        wingtip @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux

                                        I will re verify, however, nothing has changed as this config g had been working just fine. it just sat for close to a year since i last printed and all i changed was updating the firmware and replace the v6 with a revo 6. it was almost just plug and play. i only had to install a xt 30 connector to the heater cable and it does show continuity through the coil at that connector. its when i went to try to pid tune that things just decided to causing grief...

                                        Highly modified FT5 R1, ATX supply, mosfet w/silicone heat pad, bmg ext, TMC2600 drivers, and my custom quad z mod with 4 lead screws and custom cut new upper panels and bed, and using the dual z endstop mod. New project is 800x500x500z printer.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Does the LED near the heater output light up when you turn on the heater to a set temp?

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            We could also switch to another heater output incase it's the heater mosfet that has failed. If it still doesn't work that would mean it's either the heater itself or the cable in between.

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