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    • michaxyundefined
      michaxy @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      I hope its just the gcode.

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      • michaxyundefined
        michaxy
        last edited by michaxy

        After 4 minutes with an older file, the printer stopped again. Like a reset, heaters off and the coordinates are all at zero.
        But this time I was able to move the axes afterwards.

        Very strange

        M122

        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.4.4 (2022-10-20 16:19:01) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 (standalone mode)
        Board ID: 08DJM-9P63L-DJ3S0-7JTDD-3SS6N-9BLRB
        Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (13 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 152824
        Dynamic ram: 99520 of which 112 recycled
        Never used RAM 98216, free system stack 219 words
        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,29.6%,220) ETHERNET(notifyWait,0.2%,561) ACCEL(notifyWait,0.0%,348) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,328) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,351) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,943) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,335) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,340) TMC(notifyWait,8.0%,91) MAIN(running,61.8%,925) IDLE(ready,0.4%,30), total 100.0%
        Owned mutexes: LwipCore(NETWORK)
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 00:00:26 ago, cause: software
        Last software reset at 2023-04-19 21:00, reason: MemoryProtectionFault iaccViol, none spinning, available RAM 94316, slot 0
        Software reset code 0x4172 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000001 ICSR 0x00427804 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x2041fe58 Task NETW Freestk 423 ok
        Stack: 20427740 004a03af 00000061 20427743 004a03b3 0040d0a9 804002ea 810f0000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 20427920 004a0434
        Error status: 0x00
        Step timer max interval 126
        MCU temperature: min 23.3, current 23.9, max 34.4
        Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.0, max 24.0, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
        12V rail voltage: min 12.2, current 12.2, max 12.4, under voltage events: 0
        Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
        Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
        Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 632, reads 13489, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 584, reads 13490, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 696, reads 13490, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 696, reads 13490, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 696, reads 13490, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Driver 5: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 232, reads 13490, writes 14 timeouts 0
        Date/time: 2023-04-19 21:00:40
        Slowest loop: 3.25ms; fastest: 0.06ms
        === Storage ===
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
        SD card longest read time 2.1ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
        === Move ===
        DMs created 125, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
        === MainDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === AuxDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 0
        Movement lock held by null
        HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        File is idle in state(s) 0
        USB is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
        Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty
        === CAN ===
        Messages queued 234, received 0, lost 0, boc 0
        Longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 50 (min 50), ts 131/0/0
        Tx timeouts 0,0,130,0,0,102 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 2.55ms; fastest: 0.03ms
        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
        HTTP sessions: 2 of 8
        = Ethernet =
        State: active
        Error counts: 0 0 0 1 0 0
        Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
        === Multicast handler ===
        Responder is inactive, messages received 0, responses 0
        
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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @michaxy
          last edited by dc42

          @michaxy thanks for the M122 report. The machine reset due to an instruction access violation. This may have been caused by electrostatic discharge, a hardware fault, power surge, or possibly by a short-lived loss of power.

          Electrostatic discharge (ESD) often occurs when plastic is extruded from a hot end that is electrically isolated. This builds up static charge on the hot end metalwork, which subsequently flashes over to the heater or temperature sensor connections, which feed it into the Duet.

          To avoid this possible cause of unexpected resets, connect the hot end metalwork to Duet ground.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • michaxyundefined
            michaxy
            last edited by

            Ok, then I will pull an additional ground wire tomorrow, test and report back. Does the cable have to be connected to the ground connection of the board or would the connection to the ground of the printer also be ok ?
            I have mounted a rail with terminal blocks for phase, neutral and ground at the bottom of the control cabinet.

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            • michaxyundefined
              michaxy
              last edited by

              Ground is connected and I was able to print the file from yesterday completely. For days again a sense of success.

              Thanks for the help

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @michaxy
                last edited by

                @michaxy I'm glad that appears to have solved it. Usually you would connect mains ground to Duet ground too. The exception would be if you were using the Duet USB connector and wanted to avoid creating a ground loop.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • michaxyundefined
                  michaxy
                  last edited by

                  Rejoiced too soon, I tried to print a certain file again today and it reset again, despite grounding from the hot end.

                  I can not get rid of the feeling that it is the GCode, last time I took another file, it worked.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @michaxy
                    last edited by dc42

                    @michaxy if it always stops at the same place in that file then it's likely that RRF is having trouble with the GCode at that point. If it stops randomly than ESD or some other type of transient is likely to be the problem.

                    I suggest you add a connection between Duet VIN- and the mains ground that you connected the hot end metalwork to. I normally make this connection at the PSU by linking the mains ground terminal to one of the negative output terminals.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • michaxyundefined
                      michaxy @dc42
                      last edited by

                      The hot-end is connected to the GND connector at the power-in on the mainboard

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                      • michaxyundefined
                        michaxy
                        last edited by

                        So, I deleted the firmware and reinstalled again, currently a print has been running for an hour, without stopping.
                        I assume in my up and downgrade attempts, I have screwed up something. I will continue to monitor the matter and report.

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                        • gumbyundefined
                          gumby @michaxy
                          last edited by

                          @michaxy I was having similar mystery problems at first, and it was always associated with a low voltage error.

                          Could it be a power supply issue? Do you have a spare you could test it with?

                          Cheers,
                          Gumby

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                          • michaxyundefined
                            michaxy @gumby
                            last edited by

                            @gumby
                            I have no spare, unfortunately, voltages are monitored and from a voltage drop of 0.5 volts, the print is paused.
                            With me, however, everything has reset and partly I had to turn the printer off and on again, so that I can operate the again.

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                            • michaxyundefined
                              michaxy
                              last edited by

                              Hello, sorry that I have not been in touch for so long, but family and work have left me little time for hobbies.

                              For whatever reason, I had commented out the acceleration sensor during the last firmware upgrade or downgrade (probably because the firmware version did not yet support the sensor) and since then it has been quiet, it has printed as if nothing had ever happened.
                              A few months ago I planned further upgrades, such as a conversion from 2 to 4 drives etc. I also added a Raspberry PI 5 . First I wanted to put the Pi into operation with firmware V 3.5.2 and test a few things and what can I say, it happened again. I started printing and after a few layers the device stopped.
                              The error message was “SPI connection has been reset”, M122 gave me a similar diagnosis as previously posted in this topic.
                              What I noticed was that a “daccViol” or “iaccViol” was repeatedly set in line 13 of the diagnosis.
                              I then downgraded to stand alone V3.5.2, same error pattern.
                              Finally I commented out the acceleration sensor and disconnected it, since then it works again.

                              Conclusion: either my wiring of the sensor is faulty or the sensor itself.

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                              • droftartsundefined
                                droftarts administrators @michaxy
                                last edited by

                                @michaxy Can you post your config.g and response to M122? You say you have a 6HC, and that you disabled "the acceleration sensor". Do you mean the accelerometer? Are you running a 1LC toolboard as well (if so, which version), or external accelerometer?

                                Ian

                                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                • michaxyundefined
                                  michaxy
                                  last edited by

                                  Unfortunately, the printer is currently out of order due to various modifications.

                                  These lines were entered in the config for the sensor

                                  “M955 P0 C “spi.cs3+spi.cs2” I16”
                                  “M593 P “zvd” F45”

                                  This was an external sensor that was connected to the temp daughterboard connector

                                  The mainboard is a 6HC V1.01

                                  I also have the same sensor running on a modified Ender with RepRap and it doesn't cause any problems there.

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                                  • droftartsundefined
                                    droftarts administrators @michaxy
                                    last edited by

                                    @michaxy What is the sensor? Only LIS2DW12, LIS3DH and LIS3DSH are supported, ADXL345 is not supported.

                                    I would guess that your wiring is incorrect or is picking up interference. I have updated the wiring guide since last year, please check yours if you have a supported accelerometer: https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Sensors_Accelerometer#wiring

                                    Ian

                                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                    • michaxyundefined
                                      michaxy
                                      last edited by

                                      It was a LIS3DH, but that doesn't matter now, because it will no longer be used, a Roto-Toolboard is currently installed, but not yet fully connected, which should then work without any problems .

                                      But I will check the wiring from the LIS3DH again later, just to know if it was this one.

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