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    • 1d1undefined
      1d1
      last edited by

      Yes, to the current config. I have gotten some movement of Y and Z in the course of trying to get things working. Also determined the correct extruder direction because the heater controls work, the fan works and E stepper worked at least that time - I haven't tried it again since having the other motion problems. V 1.19, brand new board from Filastruder.
      If I switch X and Z at the board, all three steppers come on briefly without movement, just the vibrating. I have also tried different mA settings from 1200 down to 800 without success.

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      • Willy510undefined
        Willy510
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        Watch the video and check you wiring on the steppers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0pGKgos498

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        • vbtalentundefined
          vbtalent
          last edited by

          Just throwing this out in hopes that it might move you in the right direction and since I'm a total newb take it for what its worth.. but "All" of my movement issues were related to the end stops not working correctly and or being wired up wrong.

          On the configuration page you can view the functionality just make sure that they are working in either the open or closed state. Closed for me means the red lights are on on the board, when the limit is tripped the light goes off.

          VB,

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          • 1d1undefined
            1d1
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            OK, so my wiring was off on one pair and now all axes show some movement. However, despite the board showing correct end stop wiring, the X end stop doesn't stop the X driver. All three stepper commands result in X movement and not proper movement on the others. The X end stop triggers properly. Y and Z end stops seem to work correctly but neither axis moves as t should with the X always getting involved.
            Thank you, Tim Willy, David and VB. Closer but no success. Yet…

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              Please can you send M669 without parameters, also M584 without parameters, and let me know what the responses are.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • 1d1undefined
                1d1
                last edited by

                M669
                Error: M669 parameters do not apply to Cartesian kinematics

                M584
                Driver assignments: X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11

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                • Willy510undefined
                  Willy510
                  last edited by

                  Did you follow this for connecting and setting up your endstops? https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connecting_endstop_switches

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                  • 1d1undefined
                    1d1
                    last edited by

                    Yes. Active high, endstops correspond to correct axes, leds on, then off when triggered. Mechanical switches.

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman
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                      This is a long shot.

                      I know that M584 without any parameters seems to be reporting the correct drive mapping (apart from the fact that non existent drives 4 to 11 are mapped to non existent extruders but that shouldn't matter). However, there is no M584 command in your config.g therefore the values that are reported must be the default settings. Normally M584 would go before the other axis parameters like steps per mm, speeds accelerations etc). So maybe, (just maybe), the absence of the command is what is throwing things.

                      So try putting this near the top of your config.g file (as the first line after "Drives").

                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3. This will force the drive mapping to occur before steps per mm etc are assigned.

                      Like I said, it's long shot but…....

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • 1d1undefined
                        1d1
                        last edited by

                        Tried it, no help. Here's the sequence:

                        Home X; X carriage moves to end stop, triggers the end switch but doesn't stop, then returns about 3/4 length back
                        Home Y; X carriage moves to end stop, returns to center bed, Y carriage moves 10 mm, everything stops.
                        Home Z; X carriage moves to end stop, returns halfway, Z raises about 30 mm, everything stops.

                        E works as it should

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                        • Willy510undefined
                          Willy510
                          last edited by

                          Have you tried making a new config with the online configurator ? https://configurator.reprapfirmware.org/

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                          • 1d1undefined
                            1d1
                            last edited by

                            Yes, I've done that three times, tried someone else's and put this one together myself.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              I think you may have your motor wiring swapped, in particular I think you may have the X motor connected to the Z motor connector. Please check. The order of the motor connectors is ZA/ZB, Y, X, E0, E1 which may not be what you were expecting.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • deckingmanundefined
                                deckingman
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                                @ Id1 - It might be an idea if you posted your homing files too.

                                Ian
                                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                • 1d1undefined
                                  1d1
                                  last edited by

                                  David, you called that one. Switched those two drives and now it does all those things on the z axis that it did on the x axis. So:

                                  homeall.g
                                  ; called to home all axes
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Tue Nov 21 2017 10:14:37 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                                  ; Relative positioning
                                  G91

                                  ; Lift Z
                                  G1 Z5 F6000

                                  ; Course home X and Y
                                  G1 X-365 Y-255 F3000 S1

                                  ; Move away from the endstops
                                  G1 X5 Y5 F6000

                                  ; Fine home X and Y
                                  G1 X-365 Y-255 F360 S1

                                  ; Absolute positioning
                                  G90

                                  ; Go to first bed probe point and home Z
                                  G1 X15 Y15 F6000
                                  G30

                                  ; Uncomment the following line to lift the nozzle after probing
                                  ;G1 Z5 F100

                                  Which tells me that the basic homeall config and probably the individual home configs are incorrect. It also tells me that the motors and drivers are working as they should if only their instructions were right. Especially as I don't use bed or mesh probing, only manual. My usable dimensions are 350X, 250Y and 340Z.
                                  If I can get that all set, then it is just making sure the endstops are working. I think. Ever closer….

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                                  • 1d1undefined
                                    1d1
                                    last edited by

                                    So, today's results so far:
                                    When homing X; Z lift, carriage moves appx. 10 mm in the correct direction, z lower to original position.
                                    Y Home: Z lift, carriage moves appx. 10 mm in correct direction, Z lowers
                                    Z Home: Z lift appx. 10 mm

                                    Homeall: X and Y the same as above, then calls for Z bed compensation adjust with pop up window

                                    Once homing done, though it doesn't really home, I can move X and Y in + directions and - directions until original positioning is reached. When I try Z positioning, X carriage moves in - direction.

                                    The endstop LEDs are all on and will trigger, turn off, when activated. Set at active high. BUT when I look at machine properties in Settings, they are all triggered Yes and when I activate, they all register as No. Perhaps I have them wired incorrectly still?

                                    And I still don't understand what is going on with the movements. We switched Z and X (properly so) yesterday, but they are still wrong when trying for individual movement.

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman
                                      last edited by

                                      Your homeall.g file is a bit screwed up. When you do G1 X-365 Y-255 F3000 S1, movement will stop when an end stop switch is triggered. That is to say, either the X or the Y end stop switch but not both. So if for example the Y axis switch triggered but X was still 50 mm away from the end stop, then when you do the next line G1 X5 Y5 F6000 Y will move to plus 5 but X will move to 50 + 5. Then your fine homing line G1 X-365 Y-255 F360 S1 will move back until one or other switches trigger again so Y will go to zero but X will still be 50 and will therefore never be homed. You can tell on the web interface as the axis buttons only turn blue when homing has been successful. So you need individual G1 S1 moves for each axis. e.g after G1 X-365 Y-255 F3000 S1 you then need G1 X-365 F3000 S1 and G1 Y-255 F3000 S1 and the same for your fine homing (or just home each axis in turn).
                                      HTH

                                      Ian
                                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        @deckingman:

                                        Your homeall.g file is a bit screwed up. When you do G1 X-365 Y-255 F3000 S1, movement will stop when an end stop switch is triggered. That is to say, either the X or the Y end stop switch but not both. So if for example the Y axis switch triggered but X was still 50 mm away from the end stop, then when you do the next line G1 X5 Y5 F6000 Y will move to plus 5 but X will move to 50 + 5. Then your fine homing line G1 X-365 Y-255 F360 S1 will move back until one or other switches trigger again so Y will go to zero but X will still be 50 and will therefore never be homed. You can tell on the web interface as the axis buttons only turn blue when homing has been successful. So you need individual G1 S1 moves for each axis. e.g after G1 X-365 Y-255 F3000 S1 you then need G1 X-365 F3000 S1 and G1 Y-255 F3000 S1 and the same for your fine homing (or just home each axis in turn).
                                        HTH

                                        Ian, thanks for trying to be helpful, however his homeall.g file is OK (I think) for a Cartesian printer. On a Cartesian printer, when an endstop switch is triggered, only that axis is stopped. CoreXY is different because of the shared motors.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          @1d1:

                                          So, today's results so far:
                                          When homing X; Z lift, carriage moves appx. 10 mm in the correct direction, z lower to original position.

                                          It should be lifting Z by 5mm, not 10mm. Are you sure that your Z steps/mm is correct in the M92 command? You currently have it set to 4000. What pitch of leadscrew are you using for Z, is there any gearing between the motor and the screw, and are you using a 0.9 or 1.8 deg motor?

                                          See later in my reply for correcting your endstop configuration.

                                          @1d1:

                                          Y Home: Z lift, carriage moves appx. 10 mm in correct direction, Z lowers

                                          Evidently the same issues as for X (too much ZS movement, incorrect Y movement).

                                          @1d1:

                                          Z Home: Z lift appx. 10 mm

                                          Is that all it does? Please post your homez.g file.

                                          @1d1:

                                          Homeall: X and Y the same as above, then calls for Z bed compensation adjust with pop up window

                                          The popup window means that you have homeall.g configured to use a Z probe, but you don't have a Z probe configured. See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_Cartesian_printer#Homing_Z.

                                          @1d1:

                                          The endstop LEDs are all on and will trigger, turn off, when activated. Set at active high. BUT when I look at machine properties in Settings, they are all triggered Yes and when I activate, they all register as No. Perhaps I have them wired incorrectly still?

                                          The config.g file you published earlier has this:

                                          M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S0 ; Set active high endstops

                                          but S0 sets active low endstops. Change it to S1.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                          • 1d1undefined
                                            1d1
                                            last edited by

                                            Besides, the end stops have yet to be reached by the carriages at all so even if one did the trick for all, I'm not to that point yet.

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