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    • Arminasundefined
      Arminas
      last edited by

      Hello,

      Can I use a negative pressure advance value?

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @Arminas
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        @Arminas i suppose the question is what are you trying to do and why do you think a negative value is a good idea?

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • Arminasundefined
          Arminas @jay_s_uk
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          @jay_s_uk just wondering what are the side limits of the value. Is it, let's say, from 0 to 1 or there are not actual limits?

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @Arminas
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            @Arminas i don't believe there are any limits.
            A negative value would lead to more material being deposited at corners than normal

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • Arminasundefined
              Arminas @Arminas
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              @Arminas So the higher the value = the less material deposited on the direction change? And also the more flexible filament the higher value should be set?

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @Arminas
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                @Arminas Suggest you read this to develop your understanding of the mechanisms at play https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Tuning/Pressure_advance

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @Arminas
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                  @Arminas said in Can I use a negative pressure advance value?:

                  Hello,

                  Can I use a negative pressure advance value?

                  No. RRF 3.5 will reject a negative pressure advance constant. RRF 3.4.x might accept it but I suspect that it woold make extrusion go seriously wrong.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    Arminas @dc42
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                    @dc42 Okay, thanks. I have an issue with TPU corners, but PA does not help at all no matter I increase or decrease the value.

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                    • SJIundefined
                      SJI @Arminas
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                      @Arminas
                      I predominantly print tpu.
                      I have my config with no PA, direct drive, 90A tpu. 45mm/s print speed, with retractions

                      What is the shore A?
                      Do you have bulging corners?
                      What's the print speed?
                      What's the extruder?

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                      • Arminasundefined
                        Arminas @SJI
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                        @SJI Direct drive BMG with e3d v6, 0.4 nozzle. TPU95 HF, 50 mm/s. Yes, I have bulging corners.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @Arminas
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                          @Arminas for information, direct drive extruders normally need a very low PA value, normally less than 0.1.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman @dc42
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                            @dc42 said in Can I use a negative pressure advance value?:

                            @Arminas for information, direct drive extruders normally need a very low PA value, normally less than 0.1.

                            I can add a couple of data points to that. For a Bondtech Lgx Ace/Mosquito combination and 0.5mm nozzle, PET-G needs 0.06, ABS and PLA both need 0.04 and TPU-HF95 needs none at all.

                            Ian
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