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    • c310
      c310 last edited by

      Hello! I want to purchase smart effector.

      The option "e3d v6 with PT100" has a note "no Heatsink, 24V "

      what kind of heatsink should i add to my order to have full set for working hotend.
      (from the pictures on the product page it looks like all is included, including carbon arms???)

      do i need PT100 sensor?
      do i need PT100 board?

      thank you!

      P.S. when IR probe will be available?

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      • T3P3Tony
        T3P3Tony administrators last edited by

        The reason the note is there is that the smart effector board comes with a custom heatsink made by e3d as standard. the addon part you refer to is the rest of the e3d v6 hotend.

        The arms are an option to add as well.

        www.duet3d.com

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        • c310
          c310 last edited by

          sorry, i can not figure out:
          do i need PT100 sensor?
          do i need PT100 board?

          do i need to purchase that " rest of the e3d v6 hotend." separately? it is shown on the pictures…
          thank you!

          P.S. when IR probe will be available?

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          • dc42
            dc42 administrators last edited by

            The E3D hot ends can be used with a thermistor, PT100, or thermocouple temperature sensor. If you use the thermistor, then you don't need the daughter board. The PT100 sensor is more accurate, but you need the daughter board to use it.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • c310
              c310 last edited by

              David, thanks!
              so, to have full set of items for the hot end that includes

              1. smart effector parts , (PCBs etc)
              2. heat sink,
              3. thermal barrier
              4. heater block
              5. nozzle (by the way, whick size&)
              6. heater cartridge
              7. temp sensor
              8. fan with clip
              9. silicone sock

              i select SmartEffector +e3d PT100 ?

              on the top of that i need to order separately

              1. carbon arms
              2. PT100 board

              are these lists complete ??

              thank you!

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              • dc42
                dc42 administrators last edited by

                Yes I think that list is complete.

                Regarding IR sensor availability, I don't know why they are showing as out of stock on duet3d.com. I have plenty available to order at escher3d.com. But of course a printer with the Smart Effector doesn't need an IR sensor.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • c310
                  c310 last edited by

                  Now i'm affarid to ask - SmartEffector….

                  i found on thу web that it works as a "strain gauge“, thus works with any surface (including glass)
                  the precision is about than 7 micron

                  is that correct? thanks!

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                  • dc42
                    dc42 administrators last edited by

                    The repeatability depends on the resolution and repeatability of your tower motors and mechanics too; but yes, that is correct.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • c310
                      c310 last edited by

                      David,

                      im trying to put the order in, there are 2 issues:

                      1. IR probe (for other printer) is listed as out of stock
                      2. i want to pay by UK bank transfer.

                      order is:

                      1. IR
                      2. PT-100 board
                      3. Delta Smart Effector + Options: 6 Spare Magballs + e3d V6 (no Heatsink, 24V 😞 e3d V6 with PT100

                      can you please email me your bank details for payment of £146.65
                      thank you!

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                      • dc42
                        dc42 administrators last edited by

                        I can supply the IR sensor because I manufacture them (see my site escher3d.com); but I am sorry, I can't help with the other items, which are supplied by Think3DPrint3d of behalf of Duet3D. They are closed until 2 January.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                        • c310
                          c310 last edited by

                          that is ok. i can wait till Jan 2nd… please email me the invoice. thank you!

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                          • dc42
                            dc42 administrators last edited by

                            You will need to email info at duet3d dot come with a list of what you want to order; except that you can order the IR sensor direct from me at escher3d.com now if you wish.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • c310
                              c310 last edited by

                              what is a fan voltage and RPM ?
                              can we use 3-wire fan with speed sensor?

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                              • dc42
                                dc42 administrators last edited by

                                The fan voltage can be 12V or 24V, whichever you supply from the Duet. There is a 12V/24V jumper on the effector to adjust the lighting current for the supply voltage.

                                You can use a 3-wire fan if you leave the speed sense wire (normally yellow) disconnected.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • c310
                                  c310 last edited by

                                  David, 2 questions

                                  1. motor question i moved to appropriate section 🙂 https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?pid=36907#p36907

                                  2. smart effector has heater cartridge….
                                    what kind of power does it take? is it 2Amp??? (i need to purchase correct cable)

                                  thanks!

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                                  • dc42
                                    dc42 administrators last edited by

                                    The heater cartridge comes with the E3D hot end and is available in 12V and 24V versions. The current will be 1 to 2A for the 24V version, and 2 to 4A for the 12V version.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                    • c310
                                      c310 last edited by

                                      thank you!

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                                      • c310
                                        c310 last edited by

                                        i want to return unused 2-wire PT100 and get 4 wire version. how much that will cost?

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                                        • dc42
                                          dc42 administrators last edited by

                                          E3D doesn't yet sell 4-wire PT100 sensors. What I recommend is to use a 2-wire sensor but to run 4 wires from the effector to the Duet.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                          • c310
                                            c310 last edited by

                                            ok… is there any other place to buy 4 wire sensor?

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                                            • dc42
                                              dc42 administrators last edited by

                                              We have discussed 4-wire PT100 sensors with E3D. However, the 2-wire version is more than accurate enough, and the Smart Effector lets you run 4 wires from the effector back to the Duet even when you are using a 2-wire PT100 sensor.

                                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                              • Synapsis
                                                Synapsis last edited by

                                                I was wanting to buy the PT100 Daughter Board and the PT100 sensor, is this all I need because I saw on E3d website the is a little board that come with the sensor. Is this the equivalent to the PT100 Daughter Borad?

                                                Also is the another type osf sensor I could use on the hotbed with this board to have a better reading?

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                                                • T3P3Tony
                                                  T3P3Tony administrators last edited by

                                                  E3d have an analog PT100 amplifier to use with Electronics that don't have our nice PT100 daughter board.

                                                  To use a PT100 sensor with the Duet you need just the sensor and a daughter board.

                                                  You can use a PT100 on the bed as well if you like. The daughter board takes two sensors.

                                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                                  • Deltasquare
                                                    Deltasquare last edited by Deltasquare

                                                    I know I am bumping this, but nevertheless, dc42, can you explain why you would go for the 4 wire setup even though only tow wires are in use? Is there some fancy amplifying happening before the measurements leave the effector or is it a mere "4 wires are better than 2 over a distance"? And do I need to jumper the spots (labeled jumpered for 2 wire) on top of the effector if I do so?

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                                                    • dc42
                                                      dc42 administrators last edited by

                                                      If you use the 2-wire configuration then the resistance of the wires affects the temperature readings. AFAIR the reading increases by 0.4C per ohm of resistance. If you use the 4-wire configuration then the resistance of the wires gets cancelled out. That's the only difference.

                                                      The two "jumper for 2 wire" spots are already connected. They only need to be broken if you are using a 4-wire connection and a 4-wire PT100 cartridge.

                                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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