4. Homing Issues

Homing Issues

  • Hal

    Pulling my hair out over homing.

    I have each individual home button working I think, but homeall.g seems to be giving me a ton of headache.

    when I try to use the homeall button my x and my y home and seem to work, but after my Z homes I get this error:

    0_1528854543777_g28 fail.PNG

    Here are my g files:

    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Mon Jun 11 2018 01:19:12 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

; General preferences
G90                            ; Send absolute coordinates...
M83                            ; ...but relative extruder moves

; Network
M550 PBob 1                    ; Set machine name
M552 S0
M587 S"network" P"password"
M552 S1

; Drives
M569 P0 S0                     ; Drive 0 goes forwards
M569 P1 S1                     ; Drive 1 goes forwards
M569 P2 S0                     ; Drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S1                     ; Drive 3 goes forwards
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1        ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80 Y80 Z4000 E418.45      ; Set steps per mm
M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120        ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200    ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250        ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X900 Y900 Z1200 E800 I30   ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                        ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1               ; Set axis minima
M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0         ; Set axis maxima

; Endstops
M574 X1 Y1 Z0 S0                  ; Set active high endstops

; ** BLTouch
;
M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1               ; disable heater 3, BLTouch - servo pulse on heater 3 pin (expansion 8)
M558 P9 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F200 T5000 	        ; Type 5 for BLTouch (Normally closed switch on Z-probe inputs)
G31 X0 Y0.0 Z0 P5 	  ; Z=trigger height, P=trigger value, not needed for contact probe, X/Y 
                                  ; distance from nozzle
;

; Heaters
M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
M143 H0 S120                   ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
M143 H1 S280                   ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

; Fans
M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1       ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45      ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45      ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1                  ; Define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                   ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

; Custom settings are not configured

    bed.g:

    ; bed.g
; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32

G28 ; home all
G91 ; relative mode
G1 Z5 F2000 ; move Z 4mm for clearance
G90 ;absolute mode
M401 ; In lieu of macro - call GCode for deploy probe
M557 X10:270 Y10:270 S40 ; probe every 40mm from 10 to 270 in X and Y
G29 ; run auto bed mesh level
M402 ; In lieu of macro - call GCode to retract probe
G1 X10 Y10 Z10 F5000

    Homex.g

    ; homex.g
; called to home the X axis
;
; Bed down a bit relative to current position
G91 ; relative mode
G1 Z4 S2 F200 ; raise head to avoid dragging nozzle over the bed
G1 X-300 F3000 S1 ; move up to 240mm in the -X direction, stopping if the homing switch is triggered
G1 X4 F600 ; move slowly 4mm in the +X direction
G1 X-10 S1 ; move slowly 10mm in the -X direction, stopping at the homing switch
G1 Z-4 S2 F200 ; lower the head again
G90 ; back to absolute mode

    Homey.g

    ; homey.g
; called to home the Y axis

; Bed down a bit relative to current position
G91 ; relative mode
G1 Z4 S2 F200 ; raise head to avoid dragging nozzle over the bed
G1 Y-300 F3000 S1 ; move up to 240mm in the -X direction, stopping if the homing switch is triggered
G1 Y4 F600 ; move slowly 4mm in the +X direction
G1 Y-10 S1 ; move slowly 10mm in the -X direction, stopping at the homing switch
G1 Z-4 S2 F200 ; lower the head again
G90 ; back to absolute mode

    Homez.g

    ; homez.g
; called to home the Z axis
;
G91
G1 X150 Y150
G90
G30 X150 Y150; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
G90 ; Make sure we are in absolute mode

    Homeall.g

    ; homeall.g
; called to home all axes
;
G28 X ;home x
G28 Y ;home y
G91
G1 X150 Y150
G90
G30 X150 Y150; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
G90 ; Make sure we are in absolute mode

    Why can I not home with Homeall,g? any help would be appreciated.

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  • dc42
    administrators

    @hal said in Homing Issues:

    In homez.g and homeall.g, instead of this:

    G91
    G1 X150 Y150
    G90
    G30 X150 Y150; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
    G90 ; Make sure we are in absolute mode

    use this:

    G90
    G1 X150 Y150 F6000
    G30 ; Do a single probe to home our Z axis

    Adjust the F parameter on the G1 command to a speed suitable for your printer.

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  • Hal

    @dc42 said in Homing Issues:

    G90
    G1 X150 Y150 F6000
    G30 ; Do a single probe to home our Z axis

    With this update I still get the same error after Home All is acomplished or Home Z.

    Thanks

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  • Hal

    Any reason the BLTouch would cause this error? I am also wondering if the feed rate is to high will it cause this to happen?

    anyways any suggestions are welcome

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  • Phaedrux

    The trigger value in your G31 command is very low. Try 50 instead of 5.

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  • Hal

    @phaedrux said in Homing Issues:

    The trigger value in your G31 command is very low. Try 50 instead of 5.

    So I have been setting my Z-trigger to do my Z-offset, I read that this is how the z-offset is defined?

    If it is not then how is Z-offset set with the BLTouch?

    I also see that I have these Errors (See below):

    Error: Invalid Servo Index 0 in M280 command

    Error: Homing failed

    Error: G29: No Valid grid defined for be probing

    These may be caused by all of the same thing, but I am not sure.

    Any help would be appreciated, es[ecially for setting Z-Offset so I can fix these errors.

    Thanks.

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  • Hal

    Just tried P50 and P80 to no avail. I still get the Z homing error.

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  • Phaedrux

    @hal said in Homing Issues:

    G31 X0 Y0.0 Z0 P5

    The X and Y values should be the distance from the BLTouch pin to the nozzle.

    The Z value will need to be measured with a G30 S-1 command. I'll link to a tutorial on how to get that setup.

    The P value is the trigger value. 5 is very low. I use 50 for the BLTouch.

    The invalid servo index means something is wrong either with the M558 command and how you have things wired, or the command is wrong in your deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g macros.

    Can you post those macros from the system folder?

    Can you describe how you have the BLTouch wired up?

    Does the BLTouch pin deploy and retract?

    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_BLTouch

    https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi-configuratio-and-usage/

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  • Hal

    @phaedrux said in Homing Issues:

    @hal said in Homing Issues:

    G31 X0 Y0.0 Z0 P5

    The X and Y values should be the distance from the BLTouch pin to the nozzle.

    The Z value will need to be measured with a G30 S-1 command. I'll link to a tutorial on how to get that setup.

    The P value is the trigger value. 5 is very low. I use 50 for the BLTouch.

    The invalid servo index means something is wrong either with the M558 command and how you have things wired, or the command is wrong in your deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g macros.

    Can you post those macros from the system folder?

    Can you describe how you have the BLTouch wired up?

    Does the BLTouch pin deploy and retract?

    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_BLTouch

    https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi-configuratio-and-usage/

    By the way thank you for helping me out and giving me suggestions.

    I did try you suggestion of adjusting the trigger level and still had the error.

    Yes my BLtouch deploys and retracts. I have been able to use the BLtouch with the Auto bed compensation button above the homing buttons, and it seems to work fine.

    So it kinda leaves the software as the culprit.

    M280 P3 S10 I1 is all I have in my deployprobe.g **I should also note that I do not call these macros anywhere I use the M401 and M402 commands instead.

    M280 P3 S90 I1 Retractprobe.g

    I followed the wiring guide from here:

    http://www.folgerforum.com/t/walter-s-modifications-part-3-the-duet/1582

    Thanks

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  • Phaedrux

    @hal M401 and M402 actually just call those macros, with the added benefit of letting the system keep track of the deployed and retracted state.
    G30 calls the same macros to deploy and retract as well when doing a probe point.

    It's possible that you have it wired in such a way that you must invert the signal for the servo. Try adding I1 to the M558 command in config.g, or removing the I1 from the M280 commands in the deploy and retract.

    Can you repost what your homeall.g looks like now?

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  • Hal

    Okay so I removed the I1 from the deploy and retract and my bed almost rammed into my Build Plate. Thank goodness for emergency stop.

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  • Phaedrux

    Oh no! Sorry. I should have maybe mentioned that it's a good idea to test the BLTouch a good distance above the bed and manually trigger the pin by hand before it even gets close to the bed until you are sure it's working properly.

    If it makes you feel any better I just did this tonight... 🤕

    0_1529039456067_IMG_1539.jpeg

    Caught the deployed pin on the end of the bed. The bed didn't drop before homeing Z because I mistakenly used M92 Z0 in a macro instead of G92 Z0. Instead of setting current height as Z=0 it set the z steps per mm to 0. No wonder the bed didn't drop. Oi.

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  • Hal

    It is all good I caught it before it even touched the bed. So I do not believe that I am Not Not inverted.

    goodness I am not sure what this is.

    Here is my homeall.g:

    G28 X ;home x
G28 Y ;home y
G90
G1 X150 Y150 F4000
G30 ; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
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  • Phaedrux

    What happens if you manually issue a G30 command?

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  • Hal

    Probe deploys, bed moves up, hits probe, the probe retracts, then the z axis moves down a few mm for clearance. I believe this is the correct process.

    I did have to home x and y before I could issue the G30 command

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  • Phaedrux

    But you still get a homing failed error along with the servo error?

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  • Hal

    @phaedrux said in Homing Issues:

    But you still get a homing failed error along with the servo error?

    Funny enough I did not, and i only get the servo error if i try to print.

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  • Phaedrux

    Are you manually calling M401 and M402 anywhere?

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  • Phaedrux

    Actually, now that you mention it, I was getting some servo error messages yesterday when I was testing stall detection as a z probe. I had commented out all of the M280 servo commands but I was still getting an error message occasionally. I didn't really think much of it. I looked for other M280 commands I might have forgotten but there were none.

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  • Hal

    @phaedrux said in Homing Issues:

    Are you manually calling M401 and M402 anywhere?

    Yes in my bed.g file

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