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    • AlexLin
      AlexLin last edited by

      Hi
      It has been a while since I tried Cura. So I wanted to give it a go but I'm gettign strange g-code when setting the printer to reprap. When I import the g-code in Cura or repetier host i looks strange and the print is cancelled after 1mm
      0_1546718484362_Cura_3.6_reprap.PNG
      I tried different models all with the same effect.
      When I set g.code flavor to Marlin the imported G-code looks fine
      Any idea what that could be?

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      • Phaedrux
        Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

        Can you post the gcode in question? I've been using Cura 3.6 lately and haven't seen anything like that and I am using reprap flavour.

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        • Edgars Batna
          Edgars Batna @AlexLin last edited by

          @alexlin I've seen this on Cura and Slic3r. If I recall correctly, this is thin wall detection or something of this sort. It usually happens for me when this feature is on and I'm printing something which has significantly thinner walls than the configured extrusion width.

          Either that or there's a bug with the coasting feature.

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          • AlexLin
            AlexLin last edited by

            Hi
            I found out that NOT enabling "Relative Extrusion" fixes it.....Which is strange since we need that don't we?

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            • Phaedrux
              Phaedrux Moderator @AlexLin last edited by

              @alexlin That is a weird problem. Can you save the whole Cura platter to an 3mf file and post it here? That will export your entire printer config, settings, model, and gcode so that we can see exactly what's going on.

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              • burtoogle
                burtoogle last edited by

                Yes, please save the project and attach the resulting .3mf file so we can take a look. Thanks.

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                • AlexLin
                  AlexLin last edited by AlexLin

                  0_1546808633192_CFFFP_Cylinder_2_20.gcode

                  0_1546808750847_CFFFP_Cylinder_2_20.3mf.gcode

                  Thanks in advance for the advice and time spent on it. Please remove the gcode extension from the 3mf file (cannot load 3mf files)
                  Note:the image above is of the re-imported G-code in Cure.The layer view after slicing looks OK.

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                  • burtoogle
                    burtoogle last edited by

                    Thanks for the files. Looking at the gcode, the line segments are very short and so the required extrusion amounts are very small. Depending on resolution (steps/mm) of your extruder, it is possible that the amounts are actually less than can be resolved. I believe that RRF may recently had a fix in it's handling of very small extrusion amounts in relative extrusion mode. So perhaps using the latest RRF may solve the problem. It would also be a good idea to increase the length of line segments used in the model so that the extrusion amounts are not so small.

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                    • dc42
                      dc42 administrators last edited by dc42

                      @AlexLin, the issue that was fixed in firmware 2.02 affected relative and absolute extrusion equally. So if you are certain that just changing from relative to absolute extrusion fixed it, then I suspect a bug in Cura. Are you sure you didn't change anything else?

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                      • burtoogle
                        burtoogle last edited by

                        Thanks for the clarification re the bug fix, @dc42.

                        Back to the OP's problem, it just looks to me that the line segments are too short (around 0.3mm typically).

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                        • burtoogle
                          burtoogle last edited by

                          0_1546813917641_Screenshot_2019-01-06_22-14-15.png

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                          • dc42
                            dc42 administrators @burtoogle last edited by

                            @burtoogle said in Cura 3.6 problems:

                            Thanks for the clarification re the bug fix, @dc42.

                            Back to the OP's problem, it just looks to me that the line segments are too short (around 0.3mm typically).

                            Short line segments combined with low extruder steps/mm triggered the problem that was addressed in firmware 2.02. The work around in earlier firmwares was to increase microstepping.

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                            • AlexLin
                              AlexLin last edited by

                              This is not a duet problem. I tried to print it once and it failed. Then I imported the gcode in repetier hist and cura and saw this strange effect. So either it is a cura bug..... But people are using cura 3.6..i have used cura before... I think 3.2....so I guess I have a wrong setting...
                              Or is the gcode OK but k
                              Cannot repetier host and cura not visualizer relative extrusion files....... And the file is fine? It stopped print after the first infill layer... Which is where the code visualisation starts to look funky

                              For now I think is I have something setup wrong or it is a cura bug and people don't set the relative extrusion option.....

                              I will try the Facebook group maybe they have an answer..... I'll just keep using slic3r

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                              • AlexLin
                                AlexLin @dc42 last edited by

                                @dc42 well I updated cura from my previous version... Sliced the cylinder and this was the result... I inticked relative extrusion, which I had set in the previous version and it looks OK....
                                I will try to set up the printer profile from scratch and reset everything in Cura

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                                • burtoogle
                                  burtoogle last edited by

                                  Hi @AlexLin , what steps/mm are you using with your extruder? Thanks.

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                                  • AlexLin
                                    AlexLin @burtoogle last edited by AlexLin

                                    @burtoogle I think something like 830 per mm for my titan extruder, but that is not something the slicer cares about.....I have printed fine with Cura slices before and I still print fine with Slic3r. This is not a RRF/Duet problem. It is either a bug in Cura (behaviour of relative extrusion) or I have Cura configured wrong.
                                    The printer works fine, just not with files sliced by Cura 3.6 with 'relative extrusion'enabled. I see M83 in the g-code...but is doing something funky...

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                                    • burtoogle
                                      burtoogle @AlexLin last edited by

                                      @alexlin, that's understood. Well, I'll take another look at the gcode and see if I can spot what's going wrong.

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                                      • burtoogle
                                        burtoogle last edited by

                                        I found the problem, the pause at height script is leaving the extruder in absolute mode.

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                                        • burtoogle
                                          burtoogle last edited by

                                          The pause at height plugin appears to unconditionally add an M82 to the end of the script. That's a bug!

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                                          • AlexLin
                                            AlexLin @burtoogle last edited by

                                            @burtoogle O sh*t I must have used that once a long time before and it survived the upgrade to 3.6. I will disable it and see whether that works and report it as a bug to Cura/plugin. Thank you very much for your efforts!Greatly appreciated!

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                                            • burtoogle
                                              burtoogle last edited by

                                              I have created a Cura issue reporting this bug.

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                                              • AlexLin
                                                AlexLin @burtoogle last edited by

                                                @burtoogle thanks!Service!

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                                                • AlexLin
                                                  AlexLin last edited by

                                                  verified that that was the problem...this has worked before but seems to be broken in the plug-in

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                                                  • paul12
                                                    paul12 last edited by

                                                    i have a custom delta printer with duet 2 wifi, i usually use slic3r, but when i started using cura on my ender 3, the top surface finish was better. so when i tried using cura with delta the extrusion was at a very very low rate, i have turned on " relative extrusion" on cura.

                                                    Should i make any other changes to the cura of duet settings?

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                                                    • paul12
                                                      paul12 @AlexLin last edited by

                                                      @alexlin how to disable it?

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