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    • Jimborrundefined
      Jimborr
      last edited by

      This started happening with my 7" Paneldue (v1.1) yesterday during a print.
      On-Off with about 2 times per second. All information is shown and the rest works, incl touch, as it should.

      Connecting with USB (only, not tested with both connected) and the flickering it gone, so the screen works.
      I updated to the latest Paneldue fw but no change. Duet running latest fw too.

      Checked the voltage on the cable and it read 4.95-4.99v so that seems fine, but I will check this again tonight.

      any other ideas?

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      • Jimborrundefined
        Jimborr
        last edited by

        Checked voltage "output" from the Paneldue and it goes up and down from 3v to 4.5v and a noticeable buzzing sound is made
        every cycle, probably due to the LCD lighting up.

        Is the PanelDue dead?

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          It's unlikely that the PanelDue controller board is dead. Check the 5V supply on the input to the PanelDue controller board at the 4-pin connector. If that is also going up and down, check the 5V supply on the Duet's PanelDue connector too.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • Jimborrundefined
            Jimborr
            last edited by

            Tested the following now.

            Cable from Duet: 4.87v steady
            Cable from Duet only Paneldue:

            • Pin directly: 4.87v
            • 5v pin on the pins going to the LCD (LCD not connected): 4.5v

            Same 5v pin above when connected to LCD: jumping between ca 3v and 4.5v (flickering)

            LCD when power only from USB3.0: ca 4.3v on above pin (not flickering)
            LCD when power from both duet cable and USB: 4.3 (not flickering)

            So something has all of the sudden started screwing with the voltage when it comes from the duet cable only.
            My electronics skills are not good enough to say where though.. I see no damaged parts on the LCD.

            ideas? besides scrap the LCD..

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            • elmoretundefined
              elmoret
              last edited by

              It sounds like the PanelDue isn't supplying a steady 5v to the LCD, possibly a damaged trace or bad connection.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                @Jimborr:

                Tested the following now.

                Cable from Duet: 4.87v steady
                Cable from Duet only Paneldue:

                • Pin directly: 4.87v

                Please clarify: were those voltages measured with the LCD connected and flashing (no USB power supplied), or not? And were BOTH of them steady?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • Jimborrundefined
                  Jimborr
                  last edited by

                  @dc42:

                  @Jimborr:

                  Tested the following now.

                  Cable from Duet: 4.87v steady
                  Cable from Duet only Paneldue:

                  • Pin directly: 4.87v

                  Please clarify: were those voltages measured with the LCD connected and flashing (no USB power supplied), or not? And were BOTH of them steady?

                  Both above, steady, voltages were without LCD connected.

                  I just tried checking the pins on the connector on the paneldue (where the cable is directly connected) when connected to the LCD (no USB) and it fluctuates, however it's a more
                  slow up and down between ca 3.5V and 4.7v. I recorded this and will link it as soon as I'm able to.

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                  • Jimborrundefined
                    Jimborr
                    last edited by

                    Please don't mind my shaky morning hands. πŸ˜‰

                    This is when everything is connected, except USB.

                    https://youtu.be/_B7j–lrO-4

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      If the voltage on the 4-pin PanelDue connector is fluctuating, that points to a problem either on the Duet or more likely in the cable connecting the PanelDue to the Duet. Probably a bad crimp connection.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Jimborrundefined
                        Jimborr
                        last edited by

                        @dc42:

                        If the voltage on the 4-pin PanelDue connector is fluctuating, that points to a problem either on the Duet or more likely in the cable connecting the PanelDue to the Duet. Probably a bad crimp connection.

                        I will take a look at the duet side tonight if I get the time.
                        But it only happens when the PanelDue is connected to the LCD. If I disconnect the PanelDue from the LCD is stops and just gives a nice stable 4.8-ish voltage.

                        Thinking that perhaps the LCD is bad and messing with the voltage from its side.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          The backlight inverter is responsible for most of the current draw, and it will only start when the voltage is high enough. That explains why the voltage is stable when the TFT panel is not connected.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • Jimborrundefined
                            Jimborr
                            last edited by

                            Starting to suspect the inverter then. Read that there would be a buzzing sound when it's broken, which sometimes comes from the LCD panel when this is happening.

                            New 5" needs to be ordered then..

                            Thanks for the help David, always a pleasure to get your insight!

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              I still suspect the cable.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Jimborrundefined
                                Jimborr
                                last edited by

                                @dc42:

                                I still suspect the cable.

                                I'll check it when I'm rebuilding/re-cabling when my PCB Effector kit arrives πŸ™‚
                                Don't have the cash for a new screen atm anyways πŸ˜„

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