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    • Corexyundefined
      Corexy
      last edited by

      Just ordered mine right now…..so:

      E. Support for an external SD card socket
      A. Higher stepper motor current
      C. Predictive temperature control
      H. Grid-based bed compensation
      J. Dynamically-varying microstepping

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      • mhackneyundefined
        mhackney
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        Wow, that's a long and great list!

        1 C Predictive temperature control
        2 O Support for restore points
        3 L Faster file upload speed
        4 M Babystepping - if implanted with a usable UI
        5 B Multi-threaded web server,

        and some comments:

        re: config_override.g - smoothieware uses this and it did nothing but drive me crazy! I frequently had unexpected results that turned out to be override settings. If you do go down this path, making it editable in DWC like the config.g is would go a long way to help.

        SSH would be ideal over telnet but telnet is fine for me. I only run on my internal network so security is not a huge concern. But I can see it being important in an educational and industrial situation.

        ROBUST DWC connections - I know huge progress has been made on this this year but it can still improve.

        My 3D Printing blog: http://www.sublimelayers.com
        Coming this summer: "3D Printing Strategies - the art of perfecting your designs and prints"

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        • mhackneyundefined
          mhackney
          last edited by

          Here's a new request: an option to perform both the auto calibration (G30 Sx) AND return the results the way S-1 does.

          My 3D Printing blog: http://www.sublimelayers.com
          Coming this summer: "3D Printing Strategies - the art of perfecting your designs and prints"

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          • franknitty69undefined
            franknitty69
            last edited by

            1 - predictive temp control
            2 - grid based bed comp
            3 - restore points
            4 - dynamically varying microstepping
            5 - Support for three independently-controlled Z motors

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            • CodonExeundefined
              CodonExe
              last edited by

              My vote is:

              1. C. Predictive temperature control
              2. J. Dynamically-varying microstepping
              3. I. Faster microstepping
              4. M. Babystepping
              5. E. Support for an external SD card socket

              Rostock Max V2, Duet Wifi, IR Probe, PanelDue 7" LCD, Heated Enclosure, Firestop cans, Thermally Fused 12v E3D V6, Berd Air, Floating Thermally fused 24v Bed, Aluminum heat spreader, PEI, Dual 12v PSUs in series.

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman
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                Just thought of a "anything else".

                Some sort of running total of print time to date. A sort of "hour meter", or "mileometer". It would be useful for setting up maintenance schedules\reminders. Like "lubricate guides" every x number of hours or "change belts" every y hundred hours". I guess this is more a web interface thing, as it would need to be running total of when the printer is actually printing rather than power on time. Just a thought…....

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • botundefined
                  bot
                  last edited by

                  Oh yes, the hourmeter would be a very very nice feature. It could be nice to know individual axes' travel distances, as well as print hours, total powered up hours (for motors) etc.

                  *not actually a robot

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                  • RichRap3Dundefined
                    RichRap3D
                    last edited by

                    Very nice list, choices, choices…

                    My vote would be -

                      • F. Support for multiple independent X carriages.
                      • A. Higher stepper motor current (above 2A)
                      • P. Control over which access point
                      • N. Support for driving RC servos - But do the HW on the expansion header (shield) with a +5V reg + I/O etc.
                      • R. Support to compensate for axis hysteresis

                    In my first week of using DuetWifi I would have voted for E. Support for an external SD card socket, but now it's almost not even something I would think about, and it's annoying that other 3D printers are still using a slow external card…

                    Best Regards,

                    Rich.

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                    • Pumluxundefined
                      Pumlux
                      last edited by

                      I think this is my preference of order.

                      C. Predictive temperature control.
                      H. Grid-based bed compensation,
                      J. Dynamically-varying microstepping
                      O. Support for restore points.
                      G. Support for three independently-controlled Z motors

                      I read DC42 start post that way, the other topics will
                      not be dropped, just come later.

                      One suggestion from my side ( I believe the topic
                      was already discussed in some thread(s) on the RepRap forum)

                      What about having a dedicated button (pin) for pausing
                      the print (similar the pause Web Button) ?

                      Sometimes I have see someting strange during the print
                      and would like to pause. The Webbutton is to slow to reach
                      and a power off (like an emergency stop button)
                      ruins the print.

                      Using a own build of a Mendel Max , Duet Wifi, Bed 8 mm Aluminium PEI 500 x 280 x 400 230 V 850 W, original E3D Chimera hotend with bowden length 700 mm, since short time with a BL-Touch, Steppers : mostly Nema 17 and one Nema 23 for Y-axis

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                      • botundefined
                        bot
                        last edited by

                        The PanelDue offers exactly this pause button. I personally would never run a duet printer without a paneldue. It's a much more reliable and fast means of controlling the printer than the web interface. Keep in mind, the pause command does wait for the last gcode command to finish executing (or maybe even the whole queue).

                        *not actually a robot

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                        • BMMalundefined
                          BMMal
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                          I just pre-ordered a board. One feature I want to request (if it doesn't exist already) is an extruder advance (aka JKN, Linear Advance, etc) to help compensate for hysteresis in bowden systems. My machine has some very long bowden tubes and enabling this (unfinished) feature in Marlin's RC Bug fix branch made a noticeable difference on corners and top infill quality.

                          Duet Ethernet - Most likely the most recent Edge firmware
                          Duet X5
                          7" Panel Due V2
                          Cartesian, 4 Nozzles with Flex3Drives, Heated Chamber, Simple Switch Filament Sensing

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            @BMMal:

                            I just pre-ordered a board. One feature I want to request (if it doesn't exist already) is an extruder advance (aka JKN, Linear Advance, etc) to help compensate for hysteresis in bowden systems. My machine has some very long bowden tubes and enabling this (unfinished) feature in Marlin's RC Bug fix branch made a noticeable difference on corners and top infill quality.

                            Good news for you. RepRapFirmware has supported extruder pressure advance for around 18 months. See
                            http://reprap.org/wiki/Gcodes#M572:_Set_or_report_extruder_pressure_advance

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • BMMalundefined
                              BMMal
                              last edited by

                              @dc42:

                              @BMMal:

                              I just pre-ordered a board. One feature I want to request (if it doesn't exist already) is an extruder advance (aka JKN, Linear Advance, etc) to help compensate for hysteresis in bowden systems. My machine has some very long bowden tubes and enabling this (unfinished) feature in Marlin's RC Bug fix branch made a noticeable difference on corners and top infill quality.

                              Good news for you. RepRapFirmware has supported extruder pressure advance for around 18 months. See
                              http://reprap.org/wiki/Gcodes#M572:_Set_or_report_extruder_pressure_advance

                              Excellent news! And it's per extruder, even better! Can't wait to get my hands on it!

                              Duet Ethernet - Most likely the most recent Edge firmware
                              Duet X5
                              7" Panel Due V2
                              Cartesian, 4 Nozzles with Flex3Drives, Heated Chamber, Simple Switch Filament Sensing

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                              • PRZundefined
                                PRZ
                                last edited by

                                My own list for a printer:
                                1/ H grid-compensation
                                2/ C temp control with auto-tune
                                3/ D Simple panel
                                There was on forum someone asking for an odometer (recording filament consumption) and printing hour counter. That shall not be high priority, but that may be a nice to have.
                                The Duet WiFi having higher current capability, it can be possible to handle a CNC, but there is need to implement a few more G-Code

                                • M0/M1 stop/start for tool change
                                • M3/M5 start/stop spindle
                                • M8/M9 Coolant on/off
                                • M10/M11 : Vacuum (for part maintaining) - lower priority
                                • Sn : spindle speed
                                  Heaters output can be used to command SSR or to make a PWM for spindle speed control.
                                  A 'standard' mapping shall be decided, e.g. E0 heater -> spindle on/off E1 heater -> coolant on/off , Bed heater -> Vacuum pump, Fan0 for spindle speed control.

                                Shapeoko is listing the G-code it is using here http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/G-Code

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                                • Aussiephilundefined
                                  Aussiephil
                                  last edited by

                                  @PRZ:

                                  There was on forum someone asking for an odometer (recording filament consumption) and printing hour counter. That shall not be high priority, but that may be a nice to have.

                                  Hey that was me :), sort of forgotten about it but yes it would be good to have but low on the list 🙂

                                  Second the CNC stuff….. that will be my next big project.

                                  Cheers
                                  Phil

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    It's time to summarize which firmware features you want most. I allocated 5 points to your first choices, 4 points to your second choices usw. and added them up.

                                    By far the most wanted feature is predictive temperature control with auto tuning (51 points). After that comes dynamic microstep generation (30), grid-based bed compensation (27), restore points (24), faster microstepping (23), and higher motor current (21) and babystepping (18).

                                    I already implemented faster microstep generation and released it in firmware 1.14.

                                    Dynamic microstepping and higher motor current are related, because they both involve the SPI interface ti the stepper drivers. So I plan to implement them together. This leads me to the following provisional plan:

                                    #1 Predictive temperature control with auto calibration

                                    #2 Higher motor current and dynamic microstepping

                                    #3 Grid-based bed compensation

                                    #4 Restore points

                                    We also expect to have OEM customers for the Duet WiFi so I will be taking their views into account too.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • bgkdavisundefined
                                      bgkdavis
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                                      Really have to ask, but what on earth is 'predictive temperature control' are you talking about Feed forward or heuristic control?… both I would consider to be a poor replacement for PID.

                                      The problem with PID control is tuning and most people who talk about tuning of PID rarely explain that the tuning methodology changes with the form of the PID algorithms (and there are many forms)

                                      How about replacing the existing PID algorithm with an auto tune algorithm?

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        It's feedforward control. Why would you consider it to be a poor replacement for PID? PID is OK at correcting for small changes in the status quo, but it's fairly useless at achieving the target temperature in the first place.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • botundefined
                                          bot
                                          last edited by

                                          What exactly about it are you trying to improve? I don't think I've ever been unable to tune a PID adequately enough for it to have no ill-effect on prints.

                                          One thing that would be nice for an alternate to PID, is for it to be able to set temperatures for times in the future. For example, have an idle heater heated up at the precise moment it is needed, rather than having to wait. It would account for the heatup (and cooldown) times and time the signals appropriately to have the heater ready or not when it is needed or not. This would be useful in the case of a stationary idle extruder.

                                          *not actually a robot

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                                          • Great_Tharkundefined
                                            Great_Thark
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                                            b c j o h in no particular order

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