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    • gnydickundefined
      gnydick
      last edited by gnydick

      What's the exactly correct tool-head for a crimper to use the included terminals? I have a set of crimpers with interchangeable jaws, but they're all so wide, it's impossible to see what you're doing because the end of the terminal is so far deep in the jaws, it can't be seen.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        i have great success with the Engineer Pa-09

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
          last edited by

          Will have to echo Veti, the Engineer PA-09 is a great tool after a little practice. You'll find a clone by a Chinese manufacturer IWISS IWS-2820M for about half the price, which gets the job done and has a reasonable quality; I just prefer the ergonomics of the Engineer tool.

          In any case you need a crimper for 1.6mm open barrel terminal. The ratcheting type is simpler to use, but ideally you'll need different dies for different wire gauge, and it used to be difficult to find quality dies at a reasonable price, at least compared to the manual tool that works well with most wire gauges as long as the terminal can accommodate the wire.

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          • jackantubisundefined
            jackantubis
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            This one work really well 😉

            Pince à sertir universelle pour... https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B002AVVO7U?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @jackantubis
              last edited by

              @jackantubis said in Crimping tool?:

              This one work really well

              thats the engineer-pa20. it will also work. but you wont be able to crimp the connectors used for the stepper motor plugs.

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User @Veti
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                @veti said in Crimping tool?:

                @jackantubis said in Crimping tool?:

                This one work really well

                thats the engineer-pa20. it will also work. but you wont be able to crimp the connectors used for the stepper motor plugs.

                Refering to the JST PH 2.00mm connection found on most steppers these days?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  @bearer said in Crimping tool?:

                  JST PH 2.00mm

                  yes

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    Another vote for the PA-09

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                    • botundefined
                      bot
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                      This is the exact correct tool to use for one of the pins specified in documentation according to the manufacturer.

                      With crimp pin terminals, there will usually be one specific tool that is meant to be used with the pins. In most cases, actually, the hand-held tools are only meant for repair and prototyping and the "real authorized" tool is a huge pneumatic machine.

                      In any event, you can often use a generalized crimp tool labeled to crimp D-Sub terminals, or suitable replicas of such. Be sure to test the tool with each crimp/wire combo to ensure that you're reliably making the connection. You should be able to pull the crimp pin while holding the wire, and the wire should break. If the wire simply slips out of the crimp pin you have not made a secure connection. This test must be performed without crimping the secondary part onto the insulation -- only the conductor portion of the crimp should be used when performing the pull test.

                      *not actually a robot

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @bot
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                        @bot

                        Can you 100% say that it makes a £300 better job than the others that have been listed? Me no think so...

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                        • botundefined
                          bot @A Former User
                          last edited by

                          No, but the question was which tool is the exact correct tool, and the answer is the one I linked to.

                          *not actually a robot

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
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                            LOL. Can't fault that

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                            • gnydickundefined
                              gnydick @bot
                              last edited by gnydick

                              @bot, holy crap, $400.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by

                                yeah most of the molex tools are really expensive.

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  All of the name brand tools are expensive, but you will do just fine with a $40 tool (I.e. the Engineer PA-09) and some practice, or even the $20 Chinese IWISS clone for that matter.

                                  Half way down this page you'll see some illustrations showing you how to adjust your crimping for good results, after a while you'll get a pretty good feel for it, visual inspection is a good indicator and you could always try pulling on the wires and see if the wire breaks or if it slips out of the terminal till you get the hang of it.
                                  http://www.pinrepair.com/connect/

                                  Was hoping to find another link that had more of a poster format with more or less the same pictures, but, apparently not today.

                                  Edit:
                                  poster: http://www.te.com/content/dam/te-com/documents/application-tooling/global/65780-4_Crimp Quality Poster.pdf

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                                  • gnydickundefined
                                    gnydick @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @bearer very cool

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                                    • percarundefined
                                      percar
                                      last edited by

                                      This crimper is a full cycle style printer and works very well
                                      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IWISS-Dupont-Pin-Crimping-Tool-2-54mm-3-96mm-28-18AWG-0-1-1-0mm2-Compression/32769475118.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dUm3Gtt

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                                      • zaptaundefined
                                        zapta
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                                        I am getting very good results with this crimper https://www.amazon.com/s?k=B078WNZ9FW

                                        It's handle is more comfortable and was able to get better crimps than with Engineer's PA-09/20/21.

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                                        • gnydickundefined
                                          gnydick @zapta
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                                          @zapta I'll check it out!

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                                          • zaptaundefined
                                            zapta @gnydick
                                            last edited by zapta

                                            @gnydick, I am using the 1.3 slot for crimping the conductor and 1.9 slot for crimping the insulation.

                                            Before you insert the two wings into a slot to crimp, use the tip of the tool to press the wings to become parallel.

                                            One advantage over the Engineer is that when you crimp the conductors, at one point the two wings collapse at once which makes a satisfying click that indicates that you are done. With the Engineer the crimping was more gradual, the more you press the tighter it crimps. (this is my experience, YMMV)

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