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    Veti @jackantubis
    last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 11:30

    @jackantubis said in Crimping tool?:

    This one work really well

    thats the engineer-pa20. it will also work. but you wont be able to crimp the connectors used for the stepper motor plugs.

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      A Former User @Veti
      last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 14:02

      @veti said in Crimping tool?:

      @jackantubis said in Crimping tool?:

      This one work really well

      thats the engineer-pa20. it will also work. but you wont be able to crimp the connectors used for the stepper motor plugs.

      Refering to the JST PH 2.00mm connection found on most steppers these days?

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        Veti
        last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 14:03

        @bearer said in Crimping tool?:

        JST PH 2.00mm

        yes

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          A Former User
          last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 17:20

          Another vote for the PA-09

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            bot
            last edited by bot 31 Mar 2019, 17:36

            This is the exact correct tool to use for one of the pins specified in documentation according to the manufacturer.

            With crimp pin terminals, there will usually be one specific tool that is meant to be used with the pins. In most cases, actually, the hand-held tools are only meant for repair and prototyping and the "real authorized" tool is a huge pneumatic machine.

            In any event, you can often use a generalized crimp tool labeled to crimp D-Sub terminals, or suitable replicas of such. Be sure to test the tool with each crimp/wire combo to ensure that you're reliably making the connection. You should be able to pull the crimp pin while holding the wire, and the wire should break. If the wire simply slips out of the crimp pin you have not made a secure connection. This test must be performed without crimping the secondary part onto the insulation -- only the conductor portion of the crimp should be used when performing the pull test.

            *not actually a robot

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              A Former User @bot
              last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 17:45

              @bot

              Can you 100% say that it makes a £300 better job than the others that have been listed? Me no think so...

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                bot @A Former User
                last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 17:50

                No, but the question was which tool is the exact correct tool, and the answer is the one I linked to.

                *not actually a robot

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 17:55

                  LOL. Can't fault that

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                    gnydick @bot
                    last edited by gnydick 31 Mar 2019, 19:37

                    @bot, holy crap, $400.

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 20:04

                      yeah most of the molex tools are really expensive.

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                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User 31 Mar 2019, 21:44

                        All of the name brand tools are expensive, but you will do just fine with a $40 tool (I.e. the Engineer PA-09) and some practice, or even the $20 Chinese IWISS clone for that matter.

                        Half way down this page you'll see some illustrations showing you how to adjust your crimping for good results, after a while you'll get a pretty good feel for it, visual inspection is a good indicator and you could always try pulling on the wires and see if the wire breaks or if it slips out of the terminal till you get the hang of it.
                        http://www.pinrepair.com/connect/

                        Was hoping to find another link that had more of a poster format with more or less the same pictures, but, apparently not today.

                        Edit:
                        poster: http://www.te.com/content/dam/te-com/documents/application-tooling/global/65780-4_Crimp Quality Poster.pdf

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                          gnydick @A Former User
                          last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 22:07

                          @bearer very cool

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                            percar
                            last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 22:51

                            This crimper is a full cycle style printer and works very well
                            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IWISS-Dupont-Pin-Crimping-Tool-2-54mm-3-96mm-28-18AWG-0-1-1-0mm2-Compression/32769475118.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dUm3Gtt

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                              zapta
                              last edited by 31 Mar 2019, 23:46

                              I am getting very good results with this crimper https://www.amazon.com/s?k=B078WNZ9FW

                              It's handle is more comfortable and was able to get better crimps than with Engineer's PA-09/20/21.

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                                gnydick @zapta
                                last edited by 2 Apr 2019, 07:12

                                @zapta I'll check it out!

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                                  zapta @gnydick
                                  last edited by zapta 4 Feb 2019, 17:10 2 Apr 2019, 17:06

                                  @gnydick, I am using the 1.3 slot for crimping the conductor and 1.9 slot for crimping the insulation.

                                  Before you insert the two wings into a slot to crimp, use the tip of the tool to press the wings to become parallel.

                                  One advantage over the Engineer is that when you crimp the conductors, at one point the two wings collapse at once which makes a satisfying click that indicates that you are done. With the Engineer the crimping was more gradual, the more you press the tighter it crimps. (this is my experience, YMMV)

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                                    gnydick @zapta
                                    last edited by 3 Apr 2019, 03:00

                                    @zapta thank you!

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                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by 3 Apr 2019, 04:30

                                      The gradual crimping by the Engineer tool is what makes it so much more flexible, it can give you a good crimp for almost any wire size with some practice.

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                                        cookie
                                        last edited by 17 Apr 2019, 14:19

                                        Hello,

                                        I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                                        Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                                        Thanks,
                                        Cookie

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                                          dc42 administrators @cookie
                                          last edited by dc42 17 Apr 2019, 14:36

                                          @cookie said in Crimping tool?:

                                          Hello,

                                          I’ve ordered this crimping tools, the set come with 11 head, for my JST needed: http://s.aliexpress.com/3eu6rY3E

                                          Is this kind of tool also works with Duet’s Molex kk or I’ve to get specific one?

                                          That crimping tool looks very versatile if you get the multi-jaw kit, however the jaws for JST or Molex crimp terminals are the SN-2 which it says cover 13 to 23AWG. It's not uncommon to use 26AWG, and some devices are supplied with 28AWG wires.

                                          A popular ratchet crimping tool for Molex connectors is HT225D which is readily available in many countries. it will probably work on JST connectors too, but it doesn't do ferrules.

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