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Firmware electronics 1.02 on board Duet WiFi 1.04

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    revdit
    last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 06:50

    Hello. I bought Duet WiFi 1.04 electronic board in the secondary market. At the command M115 gives out the version of Firmware electronics 1.02. What did I buy, 1.02 or 1.04? Will everything work as it should? Thank.!1_1562741211441_IMG_20190710_070333_HDR.jpg 0_1562741211441_IMG_20190710_070316_HDR.jpg 0_1562741247531_2019-07-09_223435.png

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      whosrdaddy
      last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 07:01

      So you bought a clone and now you're asking here what did you buy??
      👏 👏 👏

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        revdit
        last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 07:05

        Alas, I do not understand a clone or not. As I understand the project is open, therefore it is impossible to talk about falsification. If I am mistaken in some way, please correct it.

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          whosrdaddy
          last edited by whosrdaddy 7 Oct 2019, 07:14 10 Jul 2019, 07:14

          Why not ask the vendor you did buy the board from?
          Your board clearly states "Based on the DuetWifi and Escher3d, this reproduction is not endorsed or supported in any way by ThinkPrint3d or Escher 3d"
          and yet here you are... 🙄 🙄

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            A Former User @revdit
            last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 07:22

            @revdit said in Firmware electronics 1.02 on board Duet WiFi 1.04:

            Alas, I do not understand a clone or not. As I understand the project is open, therefore it is impossible to talk about falsification. If I am mistaken in some way, please correct it.

            maybe this will help you figure it out. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Hardware_Overview#Section_PCB_revision_v1_Num_04

            a clone would suggest an identical copy, which it probably isn't. you'll have to assume corners have been cut, specifically reduced copper thickness, likely cheaper power transistors both of which means you might have trouble running at the maximum rated specifications. other than that it'll probably work, for a while at least.

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 07:40

              M115 reports firmware electronics 1.02 or later. The firmware can't distinguish between 1.02, 1.03 and 1.04 (or between 1.0 and 1.01).

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                deckingman
                last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 08:01

                The "project" may be Open Source but surely the Think3DPrint and the Escher logos are not. So I would have thought that there is a legal case for misrepresentation or unauthorised use of those logos. Not that it would easy to enforce on a Chinese based company, but a "cease and desist" notice doesn't cost much.

                In any case, under those logos, in large letters are the words "Designed and assembled in the UK" but further down in very small letters are the words "Assembled in China". Only one of those statements can be true so in any part of the western world, that is an illegal misrepresentation.

                Ian
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                  revdit
                  last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 08:40

                  I did not read the inscriptions on the board, since English is not my native language. I apologize to the community if I addressed the wrong address. I did not buy this board directly from the manufacturer, I bought it on the secondary market which was in use. Thanks for all the answers.
                  Dear dc42, is it necessary to update the electronics firmware to a later version?

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                    wilriker
                    last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 10:42

                    Just as an anecdote: before buying my genuine Duet 2 I was also considering to buy one of these clones. But I already did my homework at that time and asked them on which hardware revision their board was based - they did not even understand that question so I dumped that idea for good and went for the real thing. 😁

                    Manuel
                    Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                    with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
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                      wilriker
                      last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 10:45

                      @revdit To answer your question: looking at the board layout this seems to be based on 1.04 - but as @bearer already mentioned this will most probably have cheaper components and might not last as long or up to the original specs.

                      Manuel
                      Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                      with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                      My Tool Collection

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                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by 10 Jul 2019, 11:40

                        Another potential issue with cloned boards is that they may use thinner copper. Genuine Duets use 2oz copper top and bottom instead of the standard 1oz, to better carry the high heater currents and to help move heat away foromthe stepper driver chips and the mosfets.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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