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    • CNCModellerundefined
      CNCModeller
      last edited by

      So this is probably a stupid question but...

      Can I permanently power the logic board from a standard usb power supply via the on board usb connector? I am using external stepper drivers via a "Duet Expansion breakout board" and the heaters are also powered via external modules.

      Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

      Cheers
      Barry M

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      • DocTruckerundefined
        DocTrucker
        last edited by

        You can provide 5VDC to the board via the three way connector that has the PS_ON on it. The USB connector isn't really intended for regular use but you should be able to tell from the schematics if it is essentially doing the same as I suggest anyway. Not sure if some functions are shut down when VIN is not detected.

        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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        • zaptaundefined
          zapta
          last edited by

          You can see the relevant schematic at the third page here https://github.com/T3P3/Duet/blob/master/Duet2/Duet2v1.04/DuetWifiv1.04a_Schematic.pdf

          5V in and USB seem to feed to the same point.

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          • CNCModellerundefined
            CNCModeller
            last edited by

            Thanks folks.
            The board seems to run fine with 5v from the usb so I'll stick with it for now as there doesn't seem to be any specific issues in the schematic.

            Cheers
            Barry M

            Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
            https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
            Wanhao D4S: Duet2
            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
            K40 Laser, Duet2
            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
            Wanhao D5S
            https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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            • zaptaundefined
              zapta
              last edited by

              @cncmodeller, do you run it also with vin (e.g. 12V or 24V)? Is so, did you disconnect JP9 to disable the on-board 5V buck converter?

              I presume this is what JP9 is for, anybody willing to comment?

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              • DocTruckerundefined
                DocTrucker @zapta
                last edited by

                @zapta you do need to disable the converter. There a header pin jumper that is moved or removed.

                Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                • CNCModellerundefined
                  CNCModeller
                  last edited by CNCModeller

                  I'm only running the logic board on 5v so haven't pulled the jumper. I probably should do though just to prevent future forgetfulness. I don't have power running to the 12v connection as I'm not using the drivers or heater outputs of the Duet3D board. I have external stepper drivers running at 36v.

                  Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                  https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                  Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                  https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                  K40 Laser, Duet2
                  https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                  Wanhao D5S
                  https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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                  • nopheadundefined
                    nophead @CNCModeller
                    last edited by

                    @cncmodeller Seems like you are not using most of the Duet, just the CPU and the Wifi or Ethernet module. You could probably just use an Arduino Due with a breakout board and a Wifi module.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @nophead
                      last edited by

                      @nophead said in Power Duet3D over usb?:

                      @cncmodeller Seems like you are not using most of the Duet, just the CPU and the Wifi or Ethernet module. You could probably just use an Arduino Due with a breakout board and a Wifi module.

                      But then the file upload to the SD card over the network would be very slow, and he wouldn't get Duet Web Control.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • CNCModellerundefined
                        CNCModeller @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 said in Power Duet3D over usb?:

                        But then the file upload to the SD card over the network would be very slow, and he wouldn't get Duet Web Control.

                        Personally I'm more than happy with using the duet as I believe in rewarding the development effort involved in creating a good product. I'm using closed loop stepper drivers hence the break out. I guess either closed loop on board or a cut back board without drivers would be a more cost effective solution but I'm more than happy to do prototyping this way. I may use the on board drivers for less position critical functions like a filiment changer etc.

                        Thanks for the feedback
                        Cheers
                        Barry M

                        Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                        https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                        Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                        https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                        K40 Laser, Duet2
                        https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                        Wanhao D5S
                        https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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