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    • 3dmntbighkerundefined
      3dmntbighker
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      Regardless of the "emotional" aspects of this discussion I think it's probably very interesting to an Ender owner at the very least. And sounds like something useful will come out of all the work Agniusm is doing. Planning to invest in 12 printers, it's understandable someone might want to try to plan and budget without too many surprises at the end. If I were in that position it's quite possible I might buy clone boards until the revenue allowed me to replace them with genuine. Try to see it from his perspective. 😐 My CoreXY has a LOT more resonance than my Ender BTW. At least audible.

      Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
      Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
      MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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      • Agniusmundefined
        Agniusm
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        Well said. Thank you for being openminded.

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        • Agniusmundefined
          Agniusm
          last edited by Agniusm

          On genuine duet board there are C shaped artifacts that you might not see in photos clearly, 2 at the very right side are more visible (red sample) on x axis photo (still it might be caused by minuscule upobservable differences in machines) .
          Somehow i lean towards motor incompatibility to duet. Blind guess but those motors are not made equal.

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          • 3dmntbighkerundefined
            3dmntbighker @Agniusm
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            @agniusm said in Consistent ripples on prints:

            On genuine duet board there are C shaped artifacts that you might not see in photos clearly, 2 at the very right side are more visible (red sample) on x axis photo (still it might be caused by minuscule upobservable differences in machines) .
            Somehow i lean towards motor incompatibility to duet. Blind guess but those motors are not made equal.

            Yeah, were I in your position I might order a similar stepper that is "supposed" to be a bit better quality and try it. It won't break the bank.

            Scratch built CoreXY with Maestro
            Heavily modified Ender 3 with Maestro
            MPCNC work in progress with Duet WiFi

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            • Agniusmundefined
              Agniusm
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              I have ordered couole of these motors: https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-09deg-44ncm-623ozin-168a-28v-42x42x47mm-4-wires-17hm19-1684s.html?mfp=149-step-angle[0.9]
              Are they OK? Just to remind, for 24V system

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              • Agniusmundefined
                Agniusm
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                I have been contacted by a member with the same issue on completly stock unit. I can strike out extruder now without even bothering testing it.
                Motors shoukd be next week but i am off with kids to rehabilitation center so next weekend maybe.

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                • hussainsail2002undefined
                  hussainsail2002 @Agniusm
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                  @agniusm Hi,

                  Any update on this ?

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                  • Agniusmundefined
                    Agniusm @hussainsail2002
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                    @hussainsail2002 Yes, i have swapped for 0.9 degree stepper motors and the problem is gone to a minimum. The ripples do not feel physically anymore

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                    • robmundefined
                      robm
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                      I think this is somehow a weakness of the cartesian / 'i3' design. I go back to fighting it now and then, but don't see it on my delta or the one print I've done on my new-to-me corexy.

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                      • Agniusmundefined
                        Agniusm @robm
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                        @robm It must be. On other designs both x and y are more or less weight balanced and the print stays put.

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                        • hussainsail2002undefined
                          hussainsail2002 @Agniusm
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                          @agniusm Thanks I had the rippling on my MKS board , when I changed to duet it got eliminated.

                          Any Idea what the reason behind this could be ?

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                          • nopheadundefined
                            nophead @Agniusm
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                            @agniusm Did the spacing change (assuming you can still see a lesser effect)?

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                            • Agniusmundefined
                              Agniusm @nophead
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                              @nophead Its very hard to see, basically impossible. i will see if i have old sample to get you photo comparison
                              P.S. Black with 1.8 motor, clear with 0.9 motor if you can spot the difference
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                              • nopheadundefined
                                nophead
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                                Black shiny plastic is always the worst for showing defects in my experience, so comparing it with clear is always going to be difficult and anything clear or white is hard to photograph with detail.

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                                • Agniusmundefined
                                  Agniusm @nophead
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                                  @nophead yes bit the ripples were visible on clear too. Now they are gone.

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