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    • AgentNoiseundefined
      AgentNoise
      last edited by

      I've tested 3 motors on all the drivers. The only results I can get are a a brief stuttering of movement and then a short to ground message or the same Phase A and B might bot be connected message

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      • MrsDelishundefined
        MrsDelish
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        If you have a multi meter, measures resistance between the motor phases. On your motor 2 and 2 phases should have similar resistance (probably around 0.9 to 1.5ohm) but from one phase to the other there should be really high resistance (mega ohms).
        Once you have identified the phases, connecting them should be straight forward.

        One way to rule out any mechanical problems is disassemble the motors from the printer and just have a piece of tape on the motor shaft and test if everything moves the correct direction(remember to never connect or disconnect a motor when the driver has power).

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        • AgentNoiseundefined
          AgentNoise
          last edited by AgentNoise

          I figured this out. It was just the weird motor wiring not being the same on both motors so they weren't moving in the correct directions.

          Now the Z axis is moving way to much. 10mm is closer to 100. I set the steps per mm to 13 just for kicks but it didn't seem to change anything. I have the z homing at the high end but can only move it down 30mm despite my size being 300mm.

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @AgentNoise
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            @agentnoise said in Duel Z movement weirdness:

            I set the steps per mm to 13 just for kicks but it didn't seem to change anything...................

            Assuming you are using 1.8 degree motors which have 200 full steps per revolution and you are using the default micro-stepping of 16X, then setting the steps per mm to 13 means that 1 revolution of the motor would equate to 246mm of linear motion. Again, assuming that the motor directly drives the screw without any gearing, this would imply that you have screws with a lead of 246mm. If they happen to be single start screws, then the pitch will also be 246mm. I somehow doubt that is correct which explains your problem.

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
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            • AgentNoiseundefined
              AgentNoise @deckingman
              last edited by

              @deckingman Thanks, I'll try that. I attempted 400 steps per mm. It was default set to 4000

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @AgentNoise
                last edited by

                @agentnoise Do the maths. It's easier than guessing. One turn of a motor is 200 full steps assuming it's a 1.8 degree motor. So that's 3200 steps per revolution at default 16x micro stepping. Divide that by how far a nut attached to the screw will travel in 1 revolution (the lead) and you have the steps per mm.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • AgentNoiseundefined
                  AgentNoise
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                  Does the interpolation to X256 micro-stepping come into play in this calculation? The default 4000 steps per mm was moving too far as well.

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                  • JamesMundefined
                    JamesM @AgentNoise
                    last edited by

                    @agentnoise No it does not...you set the steps based on the x16 microsteps if that is how you have your config set up....the interpolation is done by the stepper driver.

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                    • AgentNoiseundefined
                      AgentNoise
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                      OK I see what I was doing wrong I was setting the steps per mm in the config.json only but I needed to update it in the config.g too. That's why none of my changes were making a difference

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        The .JSON file is for the configurator only if you want to re import your config into it again to make some changes.

                        The typical way of doing things is to edit config.g directly.

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          Also worth noting, after you edit the config.json file to make changes manually it may not be imported properly in the online configuration tool. I.e. if you can't change it online, odds are it won't import either.

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