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    • DocTruckerundefined
      DocTrucker
      last edited by

      Hi all,

      What's the general opinion on the original Hypercube? It's not what I would build by choice, but may have found a cheap bundle of parts for one.

      Comparison to the P3Steels/prusa/other ned slingers?

      Regards,

      Wesley.

      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        the parts of the original hypercube are close to the blv cube. which is in my opinion the better one.

        i prefer the corexy mechanic to Cartesian, because you have no moving bed.
        what makes the biggest difference in my opinion are rails.

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        • gtj0undefined
          gtj0
          last edited by

          The bed slingers always made nervous. For a small (<150mm) square bed I guess it's OK but I don't see how at reasonable speeds the printer just doesn't fly off the table with all that mass to shove around. They're also hard to enclose if you need to. 🙂 Personally, I like the cubes.

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          • Edgars Batnaundefined
            Edgars Batna
            last edited by Edgars Batna

            CoreXY is interesting and I've built a modified version of Hypercube Evolution. I'm curious if a Delta would've been the better choice due to less axes. The rod design is just meh. Get the rails and perhaps just switch to a Delta to spare yourself redundant bed-related problems. I haven't owned a Delta, but other types must be a pain with increasing size and so "many" moving interconnected parts in comparison.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Edgars Batna
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              @Edgars-Batna

              At one point I owned three mini-deltas.

              I found they were rather difficult to get the same level of performance as my FT-5 & DBOT provided.

              They did work and I was able to print decent parts on the deltas but the parts from the FT-5 & DBOT were a better.

              I like the elegance of deltas but did not achieve the speed advantages that they are supposed to offer.

              Other folks love them.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Danalundefined
                Danal @fcwilt
                last edited by Danal

                @fcwilt said in Original Hypercube. Flawed?:

                I like the elegance of deltas but did not achieve the speed advantages that they are supposed to offer.

                Very hard to get speed with mini deltas. Big deltas excel at this. In fact almost all high-speed industrial pick/place (where the engineers could pick any kinematic they wish, to achieve speed) are delta.

                Also, I wouldn't recommend a delta with anything that has to be attached/detached to probe Z. Smareffector is best, retracting probes or IR or Inductance are OK-ish. The point being: One of the keys to enjoyable delta printing is to run a simple calibration within the start gcode of every job.

                Example of fast industrial Delta pick/place. Picking batteries from a semi-random belt location (via IR vision) and placing in a retail package tray. Not speeded up.

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                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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