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    swrightlast @Phaedrux
    last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 18:43

    @Phaedrux , Had to put new connector on stepper wires (crimp on new pins), at the board end. Have continuity from motor end to board end at the connectors. I made no changes in config.g or the homex,y,z.g. It worked fine before wiring, so, to me it would indicate a wiring problem. I'm just at a loss as to what to check next.

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 19:31

      I'd probably start with re-crimping the ends.

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        swrightlast @Phaedrux
        last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 20:44

        @Phaedrux , Recrimped....no change (sigh).

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          deckingman @swrightlast
          last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 20:54

          @swrightlast Have you tested each individual motor as I suggested? If so, have you tracked it down to either the X (alpha) motor or the Y (beta) motor or both? If one motor works fine and one does not, then you could try swapping the motors. If the problem moves with the motor, then it;s the motor. If the problem persists, then it could be the driver.

          Out of curiosity, what were the changes you made which led to you having to fit a new connector?

          Ian
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            swrightlast
            last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 21:35

            @deckingman , I'll check that again. Answer to your other question: I was enclosing motor wires within the 2020 extrusion, and needed to clip the wires at the board connector to enable feeding the wiring.

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              swrightlast
              last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 22:03

              I checked motor movement.....I get a short grunt of ratcheting noise, and NO movement on either axis.

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                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 23:01

                If you disconnect the belts from the pulleys do the motors spin individually using this sent from the console:

                G91
                G1 S2 X10 F3000
                G1 S2 Y10 F3000

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
                  last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 23:02

                  @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                  .I get a short grunt of ratcheting noise, and NO movement on either axis.

                  Do you still get any errors in the console?

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
                    last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 23:04

                    @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                    needed to clip the wires at the board connector to enable feeding the wiring.

                    When you recrimped, did you get the wire phases in the same order?

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                      swrightlast
                      last edited by swrightlast 11 May 2019, 23:13 5 Nov 2019, 23:11

                      @Phaedrux said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

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                      G1 S2 X10 F3000
                      G1 S2 Y10 F3000

                      Again, just a short grunt of ratcheting noise, Motor shaft appears to be alternating rapidly between forward and backward movement.

                      Also got motor phase error thing.

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 23:17

                        Well the behaviour of the motor and the error message would seem to indicate there is a mismatched phase in the motor wiring.

                        Do you have the make and model of the motor to get the phase information?

                        You can also use this technique to find the phase pairs.
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

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                          swrightlast @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 5 Nov 2019, 23:40

                          @Phaedrux , standard folgertech nema 17, 1.8 degree. 5kg/cm, 1.5a. checking phase now......stay tuned.

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                            swrightlast @swrightlast
                            last edited by swrightlast 11 Jun 2019, 01:24 6 Nov 2019, 00:04

                            @swrightlast I could not get any resistance readings at all! Probably didn't do it right.

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                              swrightlast
                              last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 01:29

                              @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                              Error: M569: Driver 0 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
                              Error: M569: Driver 1 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
                              Error: M569: Driver 2 does not support mode 'stealthChop'

                              Does this give any clue to the problem?

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 01:29

                                Can you post your config.g?

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                                  swrightlast @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 01:44

                                  @Phaedrux
                                  ; General preferences
                                  G21 ;Set units in mm from this point
                                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83 ; Network
                                  M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name

                                                                           ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  

                                  M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                                  ; Select CoreXY mode

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                  M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                  M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16:16 I1 ; Set miscrostepping x16 with x256 interpolation
                                  M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E412 ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X400 Y400 Z300 E3000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mmmin)
                                  M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E1500 ; Set accelerations (mms^2)
                                  M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1500 E6000 ; Set maximum speeds (mmmin)
                                  M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1100 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                  M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low endstops

                                  ; Pressure advance ; Set pressure advance
                                  M572 D0 S0.15

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M574 Z1 S0
                                  M558 P9 H3 F500 T2000 B1 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                  M557 X40:290 Y40:290 S50 B1 ; Define mesh grid
                                  G31 X-10 Y60 Z0.9 P200

                                  ; Heaters

                                  M305 P0 T100000 B4171 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                  M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

                                  M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                  ; Fans
                                  M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1 ; Define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets

                                  ; Custom settings are not configured
                                  M501

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
                                    last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 01:57

                                    @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                    M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                    M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards

                                    The D3 is telling it to use stealthchop mode. Which is only supported by the TMC 2224 drives on the Duet Maestro, and not the TMC 2660 drives on the duet wifi. So that explains the stealthchop error messages. So just remove the D parameter entirely.

                                    @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                                    M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name
                                    ; ...but relative extruder moves

                                    M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                    It looks like there is either a rogue character in your config.g or a semi colon out of place. Can you upload the actual file rather than copy and paste?

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                                      swrightlast @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 02:06

                                      @Phaedrux [co; General preferences
                                      G21 ;Set units in mm from this point
                                      G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; Network
                                      M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name

                                                                               ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      

                                      M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                      M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                                      ; Select CoreXY mode

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                      M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16:16 I1 ; Set miscrostepping x16 with x256 interpolation
                                      M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E412 ; Set steps per mm
                                      M566 X400 Y400 Z300 E3000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mmmin)
                                      M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E1500 ; Set accelerations (mms^2)
                                      M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1500 E6000 ; Set maximum speeds (mmmin)
                                      M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1100 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                      M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low endstops

                                      ; Pressure advance ; Set pressure advance
                                      M572 D0 S0.15

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M574 Z1 S0
                                      M558 P9 H3 F500 T2000 B1 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                      M557 X40:290 Y40:290 S50 B1 ; Define mesh grid
                                      G31 X-10 Y60 Z0.9 P200

                                      ; Heaters

                                      M305 P0 T100000 B4171 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

                                      M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                      ; Fans
                                      M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                      M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1 ; Define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets

                                      ; Custom settings are not configured
                                      M501
                                      nfig.g](/assets/uploads/files/1573005646030-config.g) config.g

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 02:39

                                        1573005937174-config.g

                                        I made some corrections. Try that one.

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                                          swrightlast @swrightlast
                                          last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 02:40

                                          @swrightlast , I must be getting tired. How do I upload my config.g to this discussion?

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