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Dual color direct drive switching extruder.

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    JLink33
    last edited by 17 Nov 2019, 17:54

    I have been experimenting lately using a bowden extruder to push filament into a BMG which then extrudes the filament (see pics). It worked the first time without fuss. I have worked with the prusa MMU and various "switching" nozzles with little success. Other than the MMU, TPU was not viable and I had lots of jams and lack of tolerance. The MMU was a little over-engineered for me which in concept works well, but the inaccuracies of real-life made it unreliable.

    Anyways, to start, I am running a Duet 2 wifi with a Duex 5 add-on board. My loading extruders are 1:1 geared 3D printed bondtech bowden extruders and my printing extruder is the 3:1 geared bondtech BMG extruder direct drive. My hotend is an e3d v6 with copper heatblock, 50W heater, and nozzle X nozzle. The build volume is 300 x 300 x 400 mm^3. Right now I am running two feeding hotends, but in the future I will run up to 6 because I can.

    How it works. The feeder extruders each have a filament loaded partially into the first length of bowden. Each tool has two drivers running simutaneously in mixing mode with a 1:1 mix ratio. When tool 0 is selected, E drivers 0 and 1 are running. When tool 1 is selected, E drivers 0 and 2 are running... etc. When a tool is selected, both motors push the filament through the bowden splitter and into the BMG, out the nozzle. The benefits of this is that I maintain the direct drive setup and no longer have to maintain tight tolerances in the bowden tubes or the splitter wich is where most clogs come from.

    In the future, I plan to add limit switches for clog detection and peace of mind.

    Let me know what you guys think.
    Thanks

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 17 Nov 2019, 18:01

      Looks good!

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        oliof
        last edited by 18 Nov 2019, 21:34

        Interesting! Any issues tuning the extruders with the different steps / mm?

        <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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          Danal
          last edited by 19 Nov 2019, 01:10

          Very nifty. Keep us posted.

          Let's see some prints!!

          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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            JLink33 @oliof
            last edited by 5 Dec 2019, 02:48

            @oliof Theoretically the extruder motor moves 1/3 of a step faster, but because it is geared, I do not think it is a problem. Other than that, the extruder calibration is the same.

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              oliof
              last edited by 21 Sept 2020, 14:04

              Raise, thread! @JLink33 would you be sharing your configuration for this setup? I'm looking into replicating it ...

              <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                fma
                last edited by 22 Sept 2020, 07:37

                How do you manage the tip when removing filament? I always have troubles... I'm working on such system but with 6 filaments.

                Frédéric

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