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    dc42 administrators @steevebecker
    last edited by 18 Dec 2019, 22:56

    @steevebecker said in Thermocouple issue with Duet3 6HC-3HC:

    18/12/2019 à 21:40:15 M308 S1 P"0.spi.cs0" Y" thermocouple-max31856" K"k"
    No error reported

    18/12/2019 à 21:41:01 M308 S1
    Sensor 1 type Thermocouple (MAX31856) using pin (spi.cs0,serial3.rx), reading 37.5, last error: success, thermocouple type K, reject 50Hz

    Looks like it's working then. Where are you seeing the 2000C readings? If you add a sensor name to the M308 command (A parameter) then you will be able to see the sensor temperature in the Extras tab of DWC, without having to assign a heater to use it.

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      steevebecker
      last edited by 19 Dec 2019, 07:53

      Yes, I read 2000°C in DWC:

      c548d0f7-d6a8-4fe1-878b-99dd538b2b8e-image.png
      Tried that :
      M308 S1 P"spi.cs0" A"TC0" Y"thermocouple-max31856" K"k"
      It works!
      0fef8027-9bc9-4422-85be-c1b8ffb74464-image.png

      I installed the thermocouple card on the EXP3HC (with the thermocouples wired) and ran a :
      M308 S1 P"1.spi.cs0" A"TC0" Y"thermocouple-max31856" K"k"

      I get that :
      e44f6c61-4b97-482c-a3cf-3ed72bd64c2f-image.png

      M308 S1 :
      Sensor 1 type Thermocouple (MAX31856) using pin 1.spi.cs0, last error: sensor short to other wiring, thermocouple type K, reject 50Hz

      Strange, it is the same TC board and same wiring...

      plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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        steevebecker
        last edited by steevebecker 19 Dec 2019, 08:38

        How... Sorry...
        I thought that the limitation of the thermocouple that must be on the same card as the heater was fixed in version 3.0RC1

        It seems not.
        It works with Thermistor but not with TC.

        If I setup the TC on 6HC and the heater on 6HC too, it works, DWC show the temperature.

        plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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          steevebecker
          last edited by 19 Dec 2019, 16:24

          Do you have any idea when this is going to be implemented?
          (just to know if I'll have to change the TCs by Thermistors to do my tests at the beginning of the year)

          plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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            dc42 administrators @steevebecker
            last edited by 19 Dec 2019, 18:11

            @steevebecker said in Thermocouple issue with Duet3 6HC-3HC:

            How... Sorry...
            I thought that the limitation of the thermocouple that must be on the same card as the heater was fixed in version 3.0RC1

            It seems not.
            It works with Thermistor but not with TC.

            If I setup the TC on 6HC and the heater on 6HC too, it works, DWC show the temperature.

            For safety reasons, I recommend that temperature sensors are connected to the same board as the heater. Currently, I believe a heater on the main board using a sensor on an expansion board works, but not the other way round.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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              steevebecker
              last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 09:21

              I'm sorry, I misspoke. Actually, I want to use 2 heaters and 2 thermocouples with the EXP3HC card.
              Do you think it should work?

              plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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                T3P3Tony administrators @steevebecker
                last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 09:23

                @steevebecker yes, if you have a prototype 3HC though most of them did not have the modification to make to temperature daughter boards work.

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                  steevebecker
                  last edited by steevebecker 20 Dec 2019, 12:16

                  M308 S1 A"TC0" P"1.spi.cs0" Y"thermocouple-max31856" K"k"
                  Give no error but read 2000°C.
                  100b89fb-c0c5-4d8a-b991-9e61ed360dab-image.png

                  M308 S1
                  Sensor 1 type Thermocouple (MAX31856) using pin 1.spi.cs0, last error: sensor short to other wiring, thermocouple type K, reject 50Hz

                  Yes, it is a prototype... bought in October.
                  Can I made the modification myself ?

                  plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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                    dc42 administrators @steevebecker
                    last edited by 20 Dec 2019, 17:46

                    @steevebecker said in Thermocouple issue with Duet3 6HC-3HC:

                    Yes, it is a prototype... bought in October.
                    Can I made the modification myself ?

                    Yes, here are the details.

                    Duet3Expansion1-v09-SPI-mod.odt .

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                      steevebecker
                      last edited by 21 Dec 2019, 10:54

                      It works fine, thank you...

                      The last thing is the Z Probe connected to the expansion board.
                      Do you have an idea when it will be supported ?

                      plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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                        dc42 administrators @steevebecker
                        last edited by 22 Dec 2019, 11:43

                        @steevebecker said in Thermocouple issue with Duet3 6HC-3HC:

                        It works fine, thank you...

                        The last thing is the Z Probe connected to the expansion board.
                        Do you have an idea when it will be supported ?

                        What type of Z probe is it?

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                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          steevebecker
                          last edited by 22 Dec 2019, 21:26

                          It is a ZProbe we made ourself.
                          An electromagnet takes out a rod, on this rod is fixed a blade which hides or not a standard optical endstop.
                          b8211d45-db7b-42ee-8fd3-88c0541a454a-image.png

                          plant your ideas, water suggestions and questions, collect progress and do great things.

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