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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      you can define a z offset using M206
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M206_Offset_axes
      if you dont have a probe.

      however i would highly recommend a probe unless your bed is perfectly flat

      also your thermistor settings are wrong B4138 is the default, and wrong for your thermistors.

      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
      M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2

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      • TheBasedDogeundefined
        TheBasedDoge
        last edited by

        Thanks, I didn't realize the thermistors were wrong, I will fix that.
        I was trying to set up a BLTouch earlier but I had so many issues with it... So I gave up and went back to the endstop setup.

        I ran M206 and it came back with Axis offsets: X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
        I guess I can just set -.030? still not sure where it's getting that offset from.

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        • TheBasedDogeundefined
          TheBasedDoge
          last edited by

          I just tried M206 X0 Y0 Z-0.030 and then started a print, the offset is still +.030... any other ideas? I'm stumped.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            @TheBasedDoge said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima

            i think you will need to allow negative movement.

            try
            M208 X0 Y0 Z-1 S1 ; set axis minima

            what was your problem with the bltouch?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              What do you have in homeall?

              If you're not using a probe, how are you homing the Z axis?

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              • TheBasedDogeundefined
                TheBasedDoge @Veti
                last edited by TheBasedDoge

                @Veti

                Ok thanks, i'll try this after the current print finishes.

                The BLTouch wasn't reliably deploying and retracting.... I had two times where it woudn't deploy and the bed smacked into the hotend and cracked the glass 😞
                Then I had an issue where the probe fell out of the housing, i took it apart and saw that it was just held up by a piece of heat-shrink or something. I don't know if i have a defective one or an old one or something but it's just giving me too many issues.

                @Phaedrux

                here is my homeall.g. All the BLTouch stuff is commented out now. I went back to just a regular endstop

                ; homeall.g
                ; called to home all axes
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.4 on Tue Dec 17 2019 00:47:58 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                ;G91 ; relative positioning
                ;G1 H2 Z2 F7200 ; lift Z relative to current position
                ;G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F3300 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
                ;G1 H1 X-305 ; home X axis
                ;G1 H1 Y-305 ; home Y axis
                ;G1 X10 Y10 F7200 ; go back a few mm
                ;G1 H1 X-305 F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                ;G1 H1 Y-305 ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
                ;G90 ; absolute positioning
                ;G1 H2 X-5 Y10 F7200 ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                ;G1 H1 X-305 ; home X axis
                ;G1 H1 Y-305 ; home Y axis
                ;G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                G91 ; relative positioning
                G1 H2 Z5 F9000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F3600 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                G1 H2 X5 Y5 F9000 ; go back a few mm
                G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F300 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                G1 H1 Z-305 F300 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                G90 ; absolute positioning
                G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                G91 ; relative positioning
                G1 S2 Z2 F120 ; lift Z relative to current position
                G90 ; absolute positioning

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @TheBasedDoge
                  last edited by

                  @Veti said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

                  i think you will need to allow negative movement.
                  try
                  M208 X0 Y0 Z-1 S1 ; set axis minima

                  Note that if you do this with an endstop, the homing move on the Z axis will set the position to -1 since that's what the minima is set to.

                  In your homeall you have a G92 after the Z axis homing move to reset the position to whatever you want. Currently 0. So if the resulting position isn't accurate, you can adjust this G92.

                  However, this assumes your bed is level and perfectly flat.

                  How are you measuring 0.03 anyway?

                  It sounds like your BLTouch was faulty. Was it a clone? What version?

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                  • TheBasedDogeundefined
                    TheBasedDoge
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux When I homeall, the offset shows 0. Once I start the print it says Z is .030 under head position on the Machine Status screen, and then it starts printing in the air above the bed. It's really weird.

                    Not sure what version my BLTouch is... I bought it over a year ago and only tried putting it on now. Maybe i should get a brand new one and try again? The housing says 3DTouch on it, but the PCB says BlTouch. no idea of it's a clone.

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      @TheBasedDoge said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

                      3DTouch

                      that is a clone. they tend to be unreliable.

                      @TheBasedDoge said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

                      Once I start the print it says Z is .030

                      what layer height have you specified in your slicer.
                      the first print starts at the layer height that you specified. it never starts at 0 because there would be no space for the plastic to go.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @TheBasedDoge
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                        @TheBasedDoge said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

                        3DTouch

                        It's a clone. Get a genuine Antclabs BLTouch V3.1.

                        There are other good probe options. The DC42 IR probe is really good as well. The print surface will need to work with the IR sensor though.

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                        • TheBasedDogeundefined
                          TheBasedDoge
                          last edited by

                          Ok, I guess i'll order another real BLTouch. Im using PEI over glass so I dunno if an IR probe will work

                          In the mean time i still need to figure out the weird offset issue. My layer height is .2 right now, using Cura to slice.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Can you post the first 50 lines or so of your sliced gcode file?

                            Do you have an offset configured in cura?

                            Are you able to use the baby stepping function in the web control to adjust your first layer to print properly?

                            Have you calibrated the extruder so that you're getting the right amount of extrusion?

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                            • TheBasedDogeundefined
                              TheBasedDoge
                              last edited by

                              No offset configured in cura.
                              I can use the baby stepping to fix it but I have to click it a ton of times... I've just been manually turning the z motor to adjust the offset.

                              Here is the GCODE:

                              ;FLAVOR:Marlin
                              ;TIME:10883
                              ;Filament used: 5.77495m
                              ;Layer height: 0.1
                              ;MINX:117.122
                              ;MINY:126.967
                              ;MINZ:0.3
                              ;MAXX:183.437
                              ;MAXY:171.213
                              ;MAXZ:74.4
                              ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 4.4.0
                              M140 S60
                              M105
                              M190 S60
                              M104 S225
                              M105
                              M109 S225
                              M82 ;absolute extrusion mode
                              G1 Z5 F15000 ;Move the platform down 5mm
                              G28 ;Home
                              
                              
                              ;Prime the extruder
                              G92 E0
                              G1 F200 E3
                              G92 E0
                              G92 E0
                              G92 E0
                              G1 F1500 E-6.5
                              ;LAYER_COUNT:742
                              ;LAYER:0
                              M107
                              G0 F2215.4 X118.845 Y138.206 Z0.3
                              ;TYPE:SKIRT
                              G1 F1500 E0
                              G1 F1200 X119.46 Y137.693 E0.03996
                              G1 X119.512 Y137.65 E0.04332
                              G1 X120.337 Y136.988 E0.09609
                              G1 X121.752 Y135.797 E0.18837
                              G1 X122.38 Y135.373 E0.22617
                              G1 X122.98 Y135.054 E0.26007
                              G1 X123.046 Y135.02 E0.26378
                              G1 X124.288 Y134.392 E0.33321
                              G1 X126.703 Y133.084 E0.47023
                              G1 X129.059 Y131.72 E0.60605
                              G1 X130.064 Y131.104 E0.66486
                              G1 X130.114 Y131.074 E0.66777
                              G1 X130.708 Y130.723 E0.70219
                              G1 X130.795 Y130.673 E0.7072
                              G1 X131.073 Y130.519 E0.72305
                              G1 X131.446 Y130.339 E0.74372
                              G1 X131.917 Y130.145 E0.76913
                              G1 X132.007 Y130.11 E0.77395
                              G1 X132.443 Y129.944 E0.79722
                              G1 X132.726 Y129.849 E0.81212
                              
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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Can you try updating to the latest 2.05 firmware release?

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                                • TheBasedDogeundefined
                                  TheBasedDoge
                                  last edited by

                                  I did that yesterday actually, no change

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @TheBasedDoge
                                    last edited by

                                    @TheBasedDoge said in Z offset is .030 too high after starting print?:

                                    G0 F2215.4 X118.845 Y138.206 Z0.3

                                    are you sure the web gui is report 0.03 and not 0.3 ?

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                                    • TheBasedDogeundefined
                                      TheBasedDoge
                                      last edited by TheBasedDoge

                                      Yes ^

                                      Ok, so I tried PrusaSlic3r and it's not doing it? Where in Cura would be causing this weird issue?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Can you save a .3mf file from cura and post it somewhere to share it here?

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                                        • TheBasedDogeundefined
                                          TheBasedDoge
                                          last edited by

                                          sure, try this
                                          https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnt6123go95dghe/test.3mf?dl=0

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            That .3mf doesn't seem to open at all in Cura.

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