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    • pro3dundefined
      pro3d @stewwy
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      @stewwy said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

      I found reading the notes confusing and gave a lot of detail i did not need to know.
      Simplest way was to use the Configurator tool and when it had spit out all the files looking through them and punching in all my correct details. Took me about a day to get it sorted. main problem I found was the config tool missed out my M671 command so my bed tramming did not work. It's much simpler than it appears 🙂

      Thank you - I did not think about using the configurator. I will try that

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      • pro3dundefined
        pro3d
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        What is modulation pin? Never heard this before and I use a BL Touch as endstop

        mudulation pin.png

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        • stewwyundefined
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          I don't use a bltouch but from the wiki : Analogue probe with modulation Modulation (IR LED on/off control)

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          • pro3dundefined
            pro3d @stewwy
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            @stewwy
            Phew... Lots of new stuff here I have to read up on I see.. Thanks for helping

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            • stewwyundefined
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              I did find that I had to redo my PID tuning again so you need to factor that in.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @pro3d
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                @pro3d said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                Here is my old config
                My hotend is a e3d V6 with a PT1000 (NOT PT100) temp sensor. I am not sure if I run the stock heater but it is 30W or 40W - is this important?

                The Bed Heater is a 1000W silicon pad with a NTC3950 thermistor

                M305 P1 X501 R4700 ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to thermistor channel 1
                M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                Try this:

                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; heater 0 uses a thermistor connected to temp0
                M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"pt1000" ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to temp1
                M950 H0 T0 C"bedheat" Q10 ; heater 0 uses output bed_heat, low PWM frequency
                M950 H1 T1 C"e0heat" ; heater 1 uses output e0heat
                M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

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                • pro3dundefined
                  pro3d @dc42
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                  @dc42

                  Thank you DC! Do you have an advice for the BL touch as well? It is very confusing in the configurator and also I dont understand the guide

                  bl touch.png

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                  • pro3dundefined
                    pro3d @dc42
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                    @dc42 said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                    Try this:

                    M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; heater 0 uses a thermistor connected to temp0
                    M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"pt1000" ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to temp1
                    M950 H0 T0 C"bedheat" Q10 ; heater 0 uses output bed_heat, low PWM frequency
                    M950 H1 T1 C"e0heat" ; heater 1 uses output e0heat
                    M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                    It did not work well. Both now read 2000
                    heaters.png

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                    • pro3dundefined
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                      @dc42 said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                      Y"pt1000" ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to temp1

                      I now have the temp sensor working - Need to figure out the bltouch

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        Try re-running config.g (send M98 P"config.g" from the console) and see if you get any error messages.

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                        • pro3dundefined
                          pro3d @dc42
                          last edited by pro3d

                          @dc42
                          This is what the config tool threw at me and it seems to work. Now I just need the rest.. BLTOuch and what not

                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4100 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the nozzle heater and set PWM limit
                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"pt1000" ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to temp1
                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the nozzle heater and set PWM limit

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                          • dc42undefined
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                            @pro3d said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                            @dc42 said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                            Y"pt1000" ; heater 1 uses a PT1000 connected to temp1

                            I now have the temp sensor working - Need to figure out the bltouch

                            What do you current have in config.g for bltouch, and what do you have in deplyprobe.g and retractprobe.g?

                            You don't need a modulation pin for bltouch so you can set it to none.

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                            • pro3dundefined
                              pro3d @dc42
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                              @dc42 said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                              What do you current have in config.g for bltouch, and what do you have in deplyprobe.g and retractprobe.g?

                              You don't need a modulation pin for bltouch so you can set it to none.

                              Here is my old probe config
                              ; Z-Probe
                              M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
                              M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                              M558 P9 H5 F120 T6000 A30 S0.02 ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P500 X26 Y0 Z1 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              M557 X26:326 Y16:376 S150:180 ; Define mesh grid

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @pro3d
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                                @pro3d said in RRF 3.0 Upgrade - Help wanted:

                                Here is my old probe config
                                ; Z-Probe
                                M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
                                M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; Disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
                                M558 P9 H5 F120 T6000 A30 S0.02 ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                G31 P500 X26 Y0 Z1 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                M557 X26:326 Y16:376 S150:180 ; Define mesh grid

                                The M574 line was wrong anyway, it should have been M574 Z1 S0 (i.e. no Z endstop). I assume you are using G30 commands to home Z in homez.g and homeall.g.

                                Remove the M307 line. Change the M558 line to:

                                M558 P9 C"zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 A30 S0.02 ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds

                                I will assume that you don't have an attached DueX expansion board. Add this line:

                                M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"

                                Change your M280 commands in deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g to use P0 instead of P3, and remove the i1 parameter.

                                Before you rely on Z homing working, test deployment and retraction of the probe (M401 and M402). Then test Z homing very carefully, making sure you can cut the power if the Z motors don't stop in time.

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                                • pro3dundefined
                                  pro3d @dc42
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                                  @dc42

                                  Its alive 🙂 Thanks!

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