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    • droftartsundefined
      droftarts administrators @Pertti
      last edited by droftarts

      @Pertti No, that doesn't look right for heater 2, and heater 1 should be more stable than that.

      As you have Duet Wifi, but your config.g is set for Duet Maestro, there are some errors:

      M918 P1 E4 F2000000 ; configure direct-connect display
      

      Not needed, you can't connect this display to Duet Wifi

      M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
      

      Not needed, M552 S1 does this for Wifi

      M303 H1 S240 ; auto tune heater 1, default PWM, 240C target or maximum temperature
      M303 ; report the auto-tune status or last result
      M307 H0
      Heater 0 model: gain 199.0, time constant 962.6, dead time 4.5, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 12.3
      M307 H0 A199.0 C962.6 D4.5 V12.3 B0
      M570 H1 P4 T30
      M570 H2 P4 T30
      

      Remove this whole section, it's causing problems. Because...

      M305 P0 T80000 B4092 R2200 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
      ...
      M305 P1 T80000 B4700 R2200 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 vB4092
      ...
      M305 P2 T100000 B4700 R2200 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
      

      Your thermistor settings (ie temperature monitoring are incorrect for Duet Wifi. The R value should be R4700 for Duet Wifi; it's R2200 for Duet Maestro. What thermistors are fitted, or what hot end is this? E3D V6 or something similar? Getting the thermistor settings correct should give you accurate temperatures.

      Once you have corrected these, then try tuning your hot ends with M303.

      Ian

      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      • Perttiundefined
        Pertti
        last edited by

        @droftarts said in Y-stepper noise:

        M906 Y800

        I have tried all kinds of setups, parallel and serial, x,y,z etc.
        I changed the y current to 800 but then the other motor refused to turn. I changed back to 1600 and bingo, no noise!!!!!!!!!!!!
        I really don´t know what happened.
        Thanks!
        Next I´m trying to dualextrude.
        Heating needs also some study.

        Pertti
        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
        George M. Moore, Jr.

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        • Perttiundefined
          Pertti
          last edited by

          20200111_100453.jpg
          Here is my thermistor and hotend. The belong to Leapfrog Creatr. That´s all can tell.
          Seems that I can settle the undulating red heath curve flat by M303 H1 S240 but it helps until I switch the machine off. I´d like to start the heating automatically by the uploaded gcode.
          I also wonder how can I cold extrude the second extruder, what is the code?

          Pertti
          “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
          George M. Moore, Jr.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            @Pertti said in Y-stepper noise:

            Here is my thermistor and hotend. The belong to Leapfrog Creatr. That´s all can tell.

            measure the resistance at room temperature (25C) then using a known thermometer bring water to boiling (100C) and measure the resistance. that will let you caluculate the beta value.

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            • Perttiundefined
              Pertti
              last edited by

              E1: 116.5 kOhm 22 degrees C , 7.0 kOhm at boiling water

              Pertti
              “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
              George M. Moore, Jr.

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                from the table it seems to match a B3950 thermistor

                https://www.makeralot.com/download/Reprap-Hotend-Thermistor-NTC-3950-100K.pdf

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                • Perttiundefined
                  Pertti
                  last edited by

                  Thanks Veti. Next step?

                  Pertti
                  “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                  George M. Moore, Jr.

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                  • Perttiundefined
                    Pertti
                    last edited by

                    For some reason my thermistors lost their resistance after boiling them in hot water...

                    Pertti
                    “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                    George M. Moore, Jr.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Pertti
                      last edited by

                      @Pertti Maybe they need to dry out?

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                      • Perttiundefined
                        Pertti
                        last edited by

                        Yes indeed, now that they are dry they work fine. But the board has something wrong. The bed thermistor pins work ok with boiled thermistors, but the heater thermistor pins give 2000 degrees when tested with the "unboiled" bed thermistor.

                        Pertti
                        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                        George M. Moore, Jr.

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                        • Perttiundefined
                          Pertti
                          last edited by

                          I also made changes to the config.g. I wonder if it has something to do with the problem.
                          ; Heaters
                          M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M305 P1 T100 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                          M305 P2 T100 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                          M143 H2 S280
                          ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
                          M307 H1 A455.9 C183.2 D17.7 S1.00 V24.1 B0
                          M307 H2 A499.7 C172.7 D10.4 S1.00 V24.1 B0

                          Pertti
                          “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                          George M. Moore, Jr.

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                          • Perttiundefined
                            Pertti
                            last edited by

                            I think there´s something wrong with the board. Heaters.JPG
                            Some fuse I guess?

                            Pertti
                            “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                            George M. Moore, Jr.

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                            • jay_s_ukundefined
                              jay_s_uk @Pertti
                              last edited by

                              @Pertti that just means you haven't set up the temperature sensor correctly.
                              Your T values look a little low.
                              Can you post your latest config settings?

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • Perttiundefined
                                  Pertti
                                  last edited by

                                  I told above that I boiled the thermistors when calibrated them and after that this happened.

                                  Pertti
                                  “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                  George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                  • Perttiundefined
                                    Pertti
                                    last edited by

                                    New fuse is installed, but no effect. 20200209_203910.jpg

                                    Pertti
                                    “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                    George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @Pertti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Pertti said in Y-stepper noise:

                                      M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      M305 P1 T100 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                      M305 P2 T100 B3950 R4700 ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2

                                      The T100 values in the M305 H0 and M305 H1 commands are not right. Try T100000 which is what you already have in the M305 H0 command.

                                      You don't need the R parameters, because the firmware knows what values the series resistors have.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                      • Perttiundefined
                                        Pertti
                                        last edited by

                                        I changed the configuration, but the temperature stays in 2000C as in picture 16 Jan 2020, 20:19

                                        Pertti
                                        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                        George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators @Pertti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Pertti 2000ºC means the pins are shorted. -273ºC means the pins are disconnected. If you disconnect the temperature sensor, does it go to -273? If not, check your VSSA fuse replacement soldering. Alternatively, connect a 100k resistor to the pins, which should read 25C. I have these for just this occasion:
                                          alt text

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                          • Perttiundefined
                                            Pertti
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi droftarts

                                            • all temperature sensors disconnected -> temp 2000C
                                              -E0 temperature sensor connected (100k measured) -> 2000C
                                              E0 temperature sensor connected to Rumba worked ok

                                            Pertti
                                            “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                            George M. Moore, Jr.

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