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    jdjeff58
    last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 17:26

    I have 2 PWM fans and can only see Fan 0 in DWC. This is a new build so will the fan eventually appear when I load a job? Here are the lines from config.g

    ; Fans
    M106 P0 S0 I0 C"Heatsink" F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M106 P1 S1 I0 C"Nozzle" F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

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      jens55
      last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 17:33

      fans set up to be thermostatically controlled will not show up.

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by dc42 23 Jan 2020, 17:34

        Fans that are defined a thermostatically controlled are not shown, because you can't change the speed manually.

        BTW you appear to have the thermostatic control on the wrong fan, or else you have the fan names swapped.

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          jdjeff58 @dc42
          last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 20:41

          @dc42 said in PWM Fans:

          BTW you appear to have the thermostatic control on the wrong fan, or else you have the fan names swapped.

          You're right....thanks for pointing that out.

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            jdjeff58 @dc42
            last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 20:56

            @dc42 Can a thermostatically controlled fan be turned on at 70% instead of 100%. I'm trying to change the "S" value but it only seems to work when set to 1. This fan is too loud and on a mosquito hotend so I don't think I need all that speed/noise

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              Phaedrux Moderator @jdjeff58
              last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 01:01

              @jdjeff58 said in PWM Fans:

              This fan is too loud and on a mosquito hotend

              I seem to recall other posts about this particular fan not responding to PWM control very kindly. You can try adding a blip of 100% at the start up with the B parameter of M106, and you can try experimenting with the PWM frequency. 10hz to 30000hz are viable range.

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                jdjeff58 @Phaedrux
                last edited by jdjeff58 25 Jan 2020, 01:00

                @Phaedrux Yeah I just found one thread about it. Seems like the solution was to get a 12V fan and a buck converter but the fan will still run at full speed? I played around with frequencies/speeds and blip time. The best I could do was erratic cycling with S.6 F10000

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @jdjeff58
                  last edited by 25 Jan 2020, 01:24

                  @jdjeff58 said in PWM Fans:

                  but the fan will still run at full speed?

                  No, if you get a fan that responds well to PWM control it should work fine at a wide range of speeds.

                  Check out the Sunon 30mm and 40mm fans.

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                    jdjeff58 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 25 Jan 2020, 04:15

                    @Phaedrux Ok..I see that the buck converter gets connected to the board inputting 12V to the fans. I just need to convert my other fan to 12V too I suppose.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator @jdjeff58
                      last edited by 25 Jan 2020, 16:40

                      @jdjeff58 You haven't said what board you're using. If it's the Duet wifi or ethernet then yes, you only have one bank of fans to choose from. If it's a maestro board you have 2 fan banks with seperate power options so you could run 1 at 12v and the other at VIN of 24v.

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                        jdjeff58 @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 17:56

                        @Phaedrux Duet Wifi yes. The only thing I'm not clear on is how to connect this buck converter. I've read the Duet tutorial on this and it points you to a link to show how to connect to a maestro and only connecting the positive output? What about the fan jumper? I've ordered the stuff to do this but could only find the typical vague duet tutorial.

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @jdjeff58
                          last edited by 26 Jan 2020, 18:15

                          @jdjeff58 There is this guide, which maybe you have seen, for the maestro but it also applies to the wifi. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s214

                          The positive output of the buck converter will be connected to the Vfan jumper pin, since it is that pin that provides power to the fan + terminals. Normally it's either jumpered to Vin or 5v. By connecting it directly to the output of the buck converter you're providing power to the fans directly. The negative leg of the buck converter output is not required since the fans will be connected to the fan port negative pins on the duet, and the duet switches the PWM signal on the negative side.

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                            jdjeff58 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 30 Jan 2020, 03:19

                            @Phaedrux Right....but right now Vin is 24V and the fan jumper is installed for Vin. What changes (if any) do I have to make to the present jumper for this mod? I don't want to let any smoke out.

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                              Phaedrux Moderator @jdjeff58
                              last edited by 30 Jan 2020, 03:22

                              @jdjeff58 you remove the jumper and connect to the middle vfan pin directly. The jumper just connects that pin to either the 5v or vin pins on either side of it.

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                                jdjeff58 @Phaedrux
                                last edited by 30 Jan 2020, 23:42

                                @Phaedrux Ok now I get it. That makes sense. Thanks!

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