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    • tekkydaveundefined
      tekkydave @gtj0
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      @gtj0 said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

      A quick experiment revealed that if the M671 S limit is reached, no correction is done at all so it can't possibly converge by running multiple times. The only way out would be to manually move the screws until the correction would be inside the limit.

      That's what I've found.

      ~ tekkydave ~
      D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
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      • tekkydaveundefined
        tekkydave @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

        @gtj0 said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

        A quick experiment revealed that if the M671 S limit is reached, no correction is done at all so it can't possibly converge by running multiple times. The only way out would be to manually move the screws until the correction would be inside the limit.

        It seems that something may have changed since I last used auto-leveling. Back then it made the max adjustment it could and multiple runs kept improving things.

        Frederick

        Yes, I thought it worked that way but obviously not.

        ~ tekkydave ~
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        • tekkydaveundefined
          tekkydave
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          Thanks for all the helpful comments. Just to say I have no issue with the way G30 works although the option to move by a limited amount per session would be a nice to have.
          My issue is about the example code which seems to suggest it can iteratively home in when it can't.

          I usually have my limit at 3mm which works fine and to be fair G30 usually achieves a deviation of 0.0 on my D-Bot first time it runs. 🙂

          ~ tekkydave ~
          D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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            @tekkydave said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

            My issue is about the example code which seems to suggest it can iteratively home in when it can't.

            "if calibration yields a standard deviation that is above a limit, it repeats the calibration process"

            From https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode_Meta_Commands#Section_Using_conditional_GCode_commands_in_bed_g_to_calibrate_a_delta_printer

            I think you have misinterpreted what the 'limit' is; it's not the hard limit imposed by M671, it's the limit set in these lines:

            if move.calibrationDeviation.deviation <= 0.03
            break
            echo "Repeating calibration because deviation is too high (" ^ move.calibrationDeviation.deviation ^ "mm)"

            ie 0.03mm. If the calibration is more than 0.03mm out, it repeats it for up to 5 times.

            Ian

            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            • tekkydaveundefined
              tekkydave @droftarts
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              @droftarts said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

              @tekkydave said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

              My issue is about the example code which seems to suggest it can iteratively home in when it can't.

              "if calibration yields a standard deviation that is above a limit, it repeats the calibration process"

              From https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode_Meta_Commands#Section_Using_conditional_GCode_commands_in_bed_g_to_calibrate_a_delta_printer

              I think you have misinterpreted what the 'limit' is; it's not the hard limit imposed by M671, it's the limit set in these lines:

              if move.calibrationDeviation.deviation <= 0.03
              break
              echo "Repeating calibration because deviation is too high (" ^ move.calibrationDeviation.deviation ^ "mm)"

              ie 0.03mm. If the calibration is more than 0.03mm out, it repeats it for up to 5 times.

              Ian

              Not what I found. G30 exits if the limit in M671 is exceeded without getting to the test.

              ~ tekkydave ~
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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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                @tekkydave ANY G30 bed levelling exits if it exceeds the deviation limit set by M671, whether it's called in conditional gcode or a manual bed levelling. If you'd rather M671 issued a warning and attempted to level, rather than exiting, you'd best ask @dc42 for that functionality.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • tekkydaveundefined
                  tekkydave @droftarts
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                  @droftarts said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

                  @tekkydave ANY G30 bed levelling exits if it exceeds the deviation limit set by M671, whether it's called in conditional gcode or a manual bed levelling. If you'd rather M671 issued a warning and attempted to level, rather than exiting, you'd best ask @dc42 for that functionality.

                  Ian

                  I'm ok with how G30 works and I understand what you mean about the "real" test being the 0.03. I just wanted to point out that the example needs a line explaining that it will only work within the limit you have set in your M671 command. Most users would have left this at the default of 1mm. If you have disturbed one of your leadscrews by more than 1mm you will need to manually level the bed before running the macro.

                  ~ tekkydave ~
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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    Currently, if calibration fails then move.initialCalibrationDeviation and move.finalCalibrationDeviation are not changed. I'll change this in beta4 so that they are both set to the measured initial deviation. Also I'm thinking of moving them to a separate move.calibration section.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • droftartsundefined
                      droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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                      @tekkydave I've just realised the example code is for a delta printer, which doesn't use M671 (no leadscrews) to limit correction, so hasn't been considered in the description or writing of the code. I've updated the page to reflect this.

                      NOTE: If you use this method to iterate the levelling of a bed/gantry mounted on leadscrews (eg Cartesian, CoreXY etc), the maximum deviation corrected is still limited by the S parameter of M671 (default 1mm). If the maximum deviation exceeds this limit, the script will exit with "Error: Some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 1.00mm", as it would if G30 bed levelling was called manually.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode_Meta_Commands?revisionid=HEAD#Section_Using_conditional_GCode_commands_in_bed_g_to_calibrate_a_delta_printer

                      Ian

                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      • tekkydaveundefined
                        tekkydave @droftarts
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                        @droftarts said in Issue converting bed.g to use Conditional gcode:

                        @tekkydave I've just realised the example code is for a delta printer, which doesn't use M671 (no leadscrews) to limit correction, so hasn't been considered in the description or writing of the code. I've updated the page to reflect this.

                        NOTE: If you use this method to iterate the levelling of a bed/gantry mounted on leadscrews (eg Cartesian, CoreXY etc), the maximum deviation corrected is still limited by the S parameter of M671 (default 1mm). If the maximum deviation exceeds this limit, the script will exit with "Error: Some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 1.00mm", as it would if G30 bed levelling was called manually.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode_Meta_Commands?revisionid=HEAD#Section_Using_conditional_GCode_commands_in_bed_g_to_calibrate_a_delta_printer

                        Ian

                        Thanks 🙂 I realised the code was for a delta but adapted it to the commands I normally used in bed.g. I didn't know delta's don't use M671 so 😝 to me for using it in the wrong context. I was keen to have a play with conditional g-code.
                        Dave

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