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    • appjawsundefined
      appjaws
      last edited by

      can you post your complete config.g
      What firmware are you using?
      Where have you connected the heaters and sensors on the board?

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      • NEVER LUCKYundefined
        NEVER LUCKY
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        ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Sat Jan 18 2020 15:59:57 GMT+0100 (Central European Standard Time)

        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"Colossus" ; set printer name
        M665 R154 L324 B150 H700 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
        M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

        ; Network
        M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
        M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

        ; Axis Limits
        M208 Z0 S1 ; set minimum Z

        ; Endstops
        M574 X2 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-low endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
        M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-low endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
        M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-low endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop

        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        M557 R85 S20 ; define mesh grid

        ; Heaters
        M303 H1 S240 ; auto tune heater 1, default PWM, 240C target or maximum temperature

        M303 ; report the auto-tune status or last result

        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
        M143 H0 S130 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
        M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"Extruder_TOOL" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined

        ; Miscellaneous
        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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        • appjawsundefined
          appjaws
          last edited by

          You did not change the P parameter, it should be:-
          M308 S0 P"bed_temp"
          M308 S1 P"e0_temp"

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          • NEVER LUCKYundefined
            NEVER LUCKY
            last edited by

            i changed it now and it still isnt doing it
            das.PNG

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @NEVER LUCKY
              last edited by dc42

              @NEVER-LUCKY said in Hotend and Heated bed reading 2000deg celcius and fault:

              i changed it now and it still isnt doing it
              das.PNG

              Why do you have M303 commands in config.g? They don't belong there! They are for manual use only.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                NEVER LUCKY
                last edited by

                as.PNG

                i removed it and still no results. same problem and for some reason the hotend fan stopped spinning last night.
                das.PNG

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
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                  @NEVER-LUCKY Please send M115 to the Duet and post the reply. Your config.g is set up for RepRapFirmware 3, but I think your Duet is running RepRapFirmware 2.

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                    NEVER LUCKY
                    last edited by

                    dsa.PNG

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                    • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                      NEVER LUCKY
                      last edited by

                      im really lost here. what should i do?

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
                        last edited by droftarts

                        @NEVER-LUCKY Yes, you're using a config.g file for RRF3, but your board has RRF 2.05.1. The first line of your config.g is ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 3) So the config tool does tell you what firmware version it's for.

                        Is this a new board, or was it working before? If this is a new install, either:

                        • If you have the config.json file you used to generate your current config.g, go to the RRF config tool and load it. Then, on the 'General' tab, change the firmware version from '3.0 or later' to '2.03 to 2.05'. Then go through and check that it's set up correctly, export config.g, and try that.

                        Or

                        • Update your Maestro to RepRapFirmware 3 (which is going to be the future of the firmware) and sort out config.g issues there.

                        If it was working before, revert to the config.g you were using.

                        Ian

                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                        • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                          NEVER LUCKY
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                          @droftarts said in Hotend and Heated bed reading 2000deg celcius and fault:

                          RRF config tool

                          oh nice. its doing fine now.
                          however im getting new errors: the hotend doesnt heat up and is at -273,1 and the bed gets the error for heating up slowly.
                          issue.PNG

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                          • droftartsundefined
                            droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
                            last edited by droftarts

                            @NEVER-LUCKY Which did you do, update to RRF 3, or generate new config.g? If new config.g, post it. Please post the whole config.g, as text, in the 'code' tags, using </> from the formatting bar.

                            -273 means that the thermistor is not connected. Probably you have defined it for the wrong pins.

                            Ian

                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                            • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                              NEVER LUCKY
                              last edited by

                              i updated the firmware to 3.0.

                              ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 3)
                              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Sat Jan 18 2020 15:59:57 GMT+0100 (Central European Standard Time)
                              
                              ; General preferences
                              G90                                                ; send absolute coordinates...
                              M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
                              M550 P"Colossus"                                   ; set printer name
                              M665 R154 L324 B150 H700                           ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                              M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                      ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                              
                              ; Network
                              M552 P0.0.0.0 S1                                   ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                              M586 P0 S1                                         ; enable HTTP
                              M586 P1 S0                                         ; disable FTP
                              M586 P2 S0                                         ; disable Telnet
                              
                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S1                                         ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                              M569 P1 S1                                         ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                              M569 P2 S1                                         ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                              M569 P3 S1                                         ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                   ; set drive mapping
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E663.00                   ; set steps per mm
                              M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00           ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00        ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 I30                    ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
                              
                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 Z0 S1                                         ; set minimum Z
                              
                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                ; configure active-low endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                              M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                ; configure active-low endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                              M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop"                                ; configure active-low endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop
                              
                              ; Z-Probe
                              M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000                              ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                              M557 R85 S20                                       ; define mesh grid
                              
                              ; Heaters
                              
                              
                              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138     ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                              ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                              M143 H0 S130                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 130C
                              M307 H0 B1 S1.00                                   ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                              M140 H0                                            ; map heated bed to heater 0
                              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                              M143 H1 S280                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                              M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                              
                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 S"Extruder_TOOL" D0 H1 F0                  ; define tool 0
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                              G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                              
                              ; Custom settings are not defined
                              
                              ; Miscellaneous
                              M501                                               ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                              M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                              
                              
                              
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                              • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                                NEVER LUCKY
                                last edited by

                                i didnt change a thing in the config and didnt generate a new one. only the RRF is 3.0 now

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
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                                  @NEVER-LUCKY Okay. Hot end thermistor should be on e0temp, the right-hand two-pin connection here:
                                  57b476e9-c002-4a6f-b54d-01b6cd677c3d-image.png

                                  If it is, can you test the wiring with a multimeter? If not, try swapping bed and hot end thermistors connections, see if you get a reading for the hot end thermistor on the bed.

                                  Ian

                                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                  • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                                    NEVER LUCKY
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                                    alright! its all fine the wiring was wrong... so dumb of me!

                                    the bed heater is still fault for rising slowly though.

                                    crso.PNG

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                                    • droftartsundefined
                                      droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
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                                      @NEVER-LUCKY You'll need to tune the bed with M303. RRF3 doesn't assume that any heater is a bed, so it just thinks something is wrong.

                                      First, you need to get your temperature sensors reporting accurately. You're using:

                                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138     ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                      

                                      T100000 B4138 is the default thermistor setting, for a Honeywell 135-104QAD-J01 thermistor that shipped with hot ends from RepRapPro, who have been out of business for 4 years! So I doubt you have the correct thermistor settings, and likely the temperature your heaters are reporting is not accurate. All 100k ohm thermistors have a resistance of 100k ohms at 25C, and will be fairly accurate at room temperature, but they report very differently as they get hotter. So please check what thermistors you have in your bed and hot end, and set them correctly, then you have a chance of accurately setting extrusion temperature.

                                      Then, your heater settings. For full details see: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                                      Your heater settings are at the default. It looks like you haven't tuned your heaters THEN sent M500 (to store them to config-override.g). Alternatively you can copy the heater tuning to config.g. This hasn't been done, as the heater profiles in your config.g are still:

                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00
                                      

                                      While the hot end will probably heat up, the temperature control won't be smooth. So, tune heaters with something like:

                                      M303 H0 S60
                                      M303 H1 S200
                                      

                                      Run them each a number of times (usually three times will do), but wait for the heater to be at room temperature before doing it again. Once the results converge, send M500 to save them to config-override.g

                                      Then either add M501 to the end of config.g so they load from config-override.g, or copy the heater settings to config.g

                                      You can check the current heater settings by sending M307 H0 or M307 H1 from the console.

                                      Ian

                                      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                      • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                                        NEVER LUCKY
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                                        thanks for the tips!!
                                        so now im doing the tuning by sending the commands from above, ill do it 3 times as you said, but where exactly must i add M501 in config.g ?
                                        at the last line of ;Heaters or the last line of config.g ?

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                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators @NEVER LUCKY
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                                          @NEVER-LUCKY
                                          Either add M501 to the end of config.g so they load from config-override.g, or copy the heater settings (M308 for bed and hot end) to config.g (from config_override.g to config.g)

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                                          • NEVER LUCKYundefined
                                            NEVER LUCKY
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                                            right. and should i send M500 after i tune the bed and then tune the hotend and send M500 again? Or can i tune the bed and hotend both 3 times and afterwards sent M500 once ?

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