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    droftarts administrators @skayred
    last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 11:32

    @skayred I think it's happening because the hot end is quite slow to heat, so the calibration finishes and the print starts before the hot end has got to temperature. Did it used to heat up quicker? Check wiring and connections, or possibly check if the heater is failing.

    There are some warnings before the calibration, which may mean that you have an extruder move in bed.g (or however else you're invoking the calibration), but maybe pressure advance is trying to make the extruder move for some reason.

    Cold extrusion can be enabled, see M302, but is set to disallow any extrusion under 160C. Though I'm not sure you'd want to enable cold extrusion.

    Another option would be to set hot end temperature and wait, using M109 rather than M104, rather than continuing with calibration. Perhaps also re-run the heater tuning with M303 and see if it has changed.

    Can you post the file 'cube-20.gcode', so I can see what's happening at the beginning?

    Probably not hugely important, but you have commented out your M584 command in config.g, however you're using the default mapping, so shouldn't matter. Also, your endstop configuration M574 still includes a U endstop.

    Ian

    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      skayred @droftarts
      last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 11:38

      @droftarts well, warnings appear only after 60C was reached and calibration was started, nothing before - on the second screenshot, you can see warnings for each bed touch (I have piezo sensors under).

      About waiting - I also use it, so temperature is reached before any following actions will be done.
      Tuning of the PID I have made right before making the experiment.
      M584 is commented out to keep the 4th tower non-activated for some time, there is some mechanical problems.

      But most importantly, that problem started to appear only after I have made some settings for 4th tower, so I am thinking that it actually could be linked with tool numbering or some other settings that were default and now require additional parameters (maybe heater/thermistor)

      Gcode:
      cube-20.gcode

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:05

        @skayred said in Tool was not driven:

        M665 L209.000:209.000:209.000:110.000 R90.873 H203.217 B100.0 X-0.717 Y-0.982 Z0.000

        That line in your config-override.g says there are 4 towers; but you have commented out the M584 command that defined the driver for it. So I think it's trying to use the extruder at the 4th tower.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          droftarts administrators @skayred
          last edited by droftarts 26 Feb 2020, 12:09

          @skayred This is your gcode up to when it's printing the outline around the cube:

          G90
          M82
          M106 S0
          M140 S80 ; set bed temp
          M190 S80 ; wait for bed temp
          G28 ; home all
          M104 S60 ; set calibration extruder temp
          M109 S60 ; wait for extruder temp
          G32 ; auto-level
          G29 S0
          ; G1 X60 F360 ; keep hotend away from the model
          M104 S240 ; set extruder temp
          M109 S240 ; wait for extruder temp
          ; process Process1-4
          ; layer 1, Z = 0.200
          T0
          G1 E-2.0000 F1800
          ; feature outer perimeter
          ; tool H0.200 W0.500
          G1 Z0.200 F1002
          G1 X9.750 Y9.750 F3000
          G1 E0.0000 F1800
          G1 X-9.750 Y9.750 E0.7560 F225
          G1 X-9.750 Y-9.750 E1.5120
          G1 X9.750 Y-9.750 E2.2680
          G1 X9.750 Y9.750 E3.0241
          G1 X9.500 Y9.750 E1.0241 F225
          G1 X4.750 Y9.750 F225

          Looking at your gcode, there's only G32 (which should call bed.g) and G29 (which starts bed mesh), none of which should cause extruder movement. So, going back to config.g, can you try changing the following:
          Add M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 (to make sure you drives map correctly)
          Remove 'U16' from M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 (configuring microstepping for non-existent axis)
          Remove ':1' from M572 D0:1 S0.75 (pressure advance enabled for non-existent extruder drive)
          Remove 'U2' M574 X2 Y2 Z2 U2 S1 (endstop for non-existent axis)

          I'd expect one of the above to be causing the hiccup, but not sure which!

          Edit: and what @dc42 said above! Missed that one...

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            skayred @dc42
            last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:10

            @dc42 hmm, thats quite curious as in both files I commented out 4th tower arm length, seems like calibration uses it, but where it gets that information?

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              droftarts administrators @skayred
              last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:12

              @skayred said in Tool was not driven:

              @dc42 hmm, thats quite curious as in both files I commented out 4th tower arm length, seems like calibration uses it, but where it gets that information?

              Possibly defining the M350 microsteps would be enough.

              Ian

              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                skayred @droftarts
                last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:30

                @droftarts still no luck, same warnings still there, as well as 4th tower arms length

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:36

                  What's in your bed.g file?

                  Did you restart after deleting the M665 line in config-override.g?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    droftarts administrators @skayred
                    last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:43

                    @skayred Did you reset after changing config.g and override-config.g? Can you post your current versions of both?

                    Delta parameters in config-override.g should change from:
                    M665 L209.000:209.000:209.000:110.000 R90.873 H203.217 B100.0 X-0.717 Y-0.982 Z0.000
                    to
                    M665 L209.000:209.000:209.000 R90.873 H203.217 B100.0 X-0.717 Y-0.982 Z0.000

                    (or delete it, as @dc42 suggests)

                    Ian

                    Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                      skayred
                      last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:46

                      @dc42 @droftarts I have commented out that line and restarted, but seems like file is regenerated after the calibration. Bed.g:

                      M561 ; clear any bed transform
                      ; Probe the bed at 3 peripheral and 0 halfway points, and perform 3-factor auto compensation
                      ; Before running this, you should have set up your Z-probe trigger height to suit your build, in the G31 command in config.g.
                      G30 P0 X0.00 Y70.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P1 X60.62 Y35.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P2 X60.62 Y-35.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P3 X0.00 Y-70.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P4 X-60.62 Y-35.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P5 X-60.62 Y35.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P6 X0.00 Y35.00 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P7 X30.31 Y-17.50 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P8 X-30.31 Y-17.50 Z-99999 H0
                      G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S8
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                        droftarts administrators @skayred
                        last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 12:48

                        @skayred So likely something in your config.g is still creating the 4th axis. Please post current config.g.

                        Ian

                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          skayred @droftarts
                          last edited by skayred 26 Feb 2020, 12:49

                          @droftarts

                          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sat Feb 02 2019 19:10:31 GMT+0200 (Eastern European Standard Time)
                          ; General preferences
                          G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          ; M665 L209:209:209:110 R91.5 H203 B100.0 X0 Y0 Z0.000 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                          M665 L209:209:209 R91.5 H203 B100.0 X0 Y0 Z0.000
                          M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                          ; Network
                          M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                          M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                          ; M584 X0 Y1 Z2 U4 E3
                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3
                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                          M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                          M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                          M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes backwards WAS S0
                          M569 P4 S0
                          ; M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1
                          ; M92 X400.00 Y400.00 Z400.00 U400.0 E404.545; ; Set steps per mm E was 400
                          M92 X400.00 Y400.00 Z400.00 E404.545
                          ; M566 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 U1000 E3000.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M566 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E3000.00
                          ; M203 X5000.00 Y5000.00 Z5000.00 U5000 E6000.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min) 3000
                          M203 X5000.00 Y5000.00 Z5000.00 E6000.00
                          ; M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 U1000 E2500.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2) 250
                          M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E2500.00
                          ; M906 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z2000.00 U1000 E2000.00 I60 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M906 X2000.00 Y2000.00 Z2000.00 E2000.00 I60
                          M572 D0 S0.75 ; pressure advance
                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z
                          ; M669 X0 Y0 ; FLYING
                          ; Endstops
                          ; M574 X2 Y2 Z2 U2 S1 ; Set active high endstops
                          M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1
                          ; Z-Probe
                          M558 P1 H5 I1 R0.4 F300 T6000 ; P1, Set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 Z-0.3 P600 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 R30 S9 ; Define mesh grid
                          ; Heaters
                          ; NEW? B3950
                          ; OLD B4138
                          ; E3D V6 thermo B4388
                          ; M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                          M305 P0 B4725 C7.060000e-8
                          M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                          M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                          ; Fans
                          M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F2 ; Define tool 0
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                          ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
                          ; Custom settings are not configured
                          M557 R70 S10 ; probe within a radius of 25mm from the centre with a mesh spacing of 20mm
                          M579 X1.015892866 Y1.01156531665572173 ; 1.02
                          ;M915 X Y S40 F0 R2
                          M501
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                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by dc42 26 Feb 2020, 13:42

                            If you reboot (with the M665 line in config-override.g removed) and then send M665 without parameters, does it report 3 rod lengths or 4?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              skayred @dc42
                              last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 13:51

                              @dc42 3 length reported in that case.

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                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by dc42 26 Feb 2020, 13:55

                                If you now run auto calibration, does it report 3 or 4 after that?

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  skayred @dc42
                                  last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 14:00

                                  @dc42 Surprisingly 3 lengths still o_O While config-override is not updated

                                  15:57:53 M665
                                  Diagonals 209.000:209.000:209.000, delta radius 91.146, homed height 203.228, bed radius 100.0, X -0.626°, Y -1.399°, Z 0.000°
                                  15:57:44 G32
                                  Calibrated 8 factors using 10 points, deviation before 0.324 after 0.009
                                  15:57:12 G28
                                  15:56:41 M665
                                  Diagonals 209.000:209.000:209.000, delta radius 91.500, homed height 203.000, bed radius 100.0, X 0.000°, Y 0.000°, Z 0.000°
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                                    dc42 administrators @skayred
                                    last edited by dc42 26 Feb 2020, 14:01

                                    @skayred said in Tool was not driven:

                                    @dc42 Surprisingly 3 lengths still o_O While config-override is not updated

                                    15:57:53 M665
                                    Diagonals 209.000:209.000:209.000, delta radius 91.146, homed height 203.228, bed radius 100.0, X -0.626°, Y -1.399°, Z 0.000°
                                    15:57:44 G32
                                    Calibrated 8 factors using 10 points, deviation before 0.324 after 0.009
                                    15:57:12 G28
                                    15:56:41 M665
                                    Diagonals 209.000:209.000:209.000, delta radius 91.500, homed height 203.000, bed radius 100.0, X 0.000°, Y 0.000°, Z 0.000°

                                    So does it auto calibrate now without those error messages?

                                    config-override.g will only be updated if you send M500.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      skayred @dc42
                                      last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 14:07

                                      @dc42 yes, cold calibration was without warnings, 40C both hotend and bed as well, now I am going to try an actual Gcode

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                                        skayred @dc42
                                        last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 14:56

                                        @dc42 yes, it solved also the printing problem. So, in short - if 4th arm is configured, some mechanism prevents the printer from actual printing due to triggering of heater failure

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                                          droftarts administrators @skayred
                                          last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 15:52

                                          @skayred With the fourth arm configured, it's trying to map a driver to it, and erroneously mapping the extruder. Which generates the warning when it's asked to move as the U axis. I'm a little surprised that it does this, but we should test in the latest firmware versions and see if it still does this, and raise it as a bug if it does. I note you're running RRF 2.04, you should consider updating to the latest RRF 2 version, 2.05.1.

                                          I expect if you'd kept the M584 you originally had, with the U axis defined, it would probably have been okay! Feel free to test...

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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