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    Asdasd1234
    last edited by Asdasd1234 13 Mar 2020, 19:49

    Hi,
    Is there a basic guide anywhere I'm missing for setting the duet3hc up as a cnc board.
    I.e which commands I'd need to add to the config and stuff to enable work-coordinate systems?
    I've had a look through the gcode documentation but I'm lost.

    My machine is now fully built, the board is wired up and I've sorted out the basics (homing, soft-limits, step-calibration etc) but since I'm moving over from a 3d printing setup, I'm not sure what other commands I'd need setup

    If someone could even just list out the codes that i might need to play around with I'd be immensely grateful

    Many thanks

    EDIT: Further question sorry for anyone who uses F360 for their cutting: I've managed to blunder my way through Fusion360's manufacturing section and I'm ready to output the file (post process it?), but it only wants to give me a .nc file rather than a .gcode even though I'm picking Grbl. Do I just re-name the file or something?

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      A Former User
      last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 20:03

      The only CNC specifc config is https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M453_Select_CNC_Printer_Mode

      Work coordinates are described in G10 and G54

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G10_Set_workplace_coordinate_offset_or_tool_offset
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G54_to_G59_3_Select_coordinate_system

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        Asdasd1234
        last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 20:04

        Thanks @bearer

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          A Former User @Asdasd1234
          last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 20:10

          @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

          but it only wants to give me a .nc file rather than a .gcode even though I'm picking Grbl. Do I just re-name the file or something?

          yeah the post processor will output gcode but the extension is .nc by default

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            dc42 administrators @A Former User
            last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 20:11

            See also https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_CNC_machine.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              Asdasd1234
              last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 20:16

              thanks guys ill read into this now

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                Asdasd1234
                last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:20

                Ok so am I right in saying :

                • I have a gcode file (just a re-named .nc file from fusion 360)
                • I home my machine using g28.
                • I jog the machine to the start of the file gcode
                • Use G10 L20 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 To set the co-ords for the start of the file.
                • then run the file?

                How do I ensure the file runs using the work co-ords and not the machine co-ords? Do I need to specify it at the start of the file?

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                  A Former User @Asdasd1234
                  last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:27

                  @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                  How do I ensure the file runs using the work co-ords and not the machine co-ords? Do I need to specify it at the start of the file?

                  Think there is an option in your post processor to either run G28 or G54 at the start of the exported g-code? Been awhile since I've messed with that stuff. You can review the top of the exported g-code to verify what you get.

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                    Danal
                    last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:28

                    @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                    How do I ensure the file runs using the work co-ords

                    All CNC machines that follow G-Code standards are always in a work coordinate system.* The default at power up is G54. When you do the G10 L20 P2, you are setting the "second" system, namely G55.

                    Therefore, you can have a G55 at the very start of your file, or issue a G55 via the Web interface.

                    * Always, with the single exception of an individual line that starts with G53, which will operate in machine coordinates. G53 is not 'sticky' and therefore applies to only the line where it appears.

                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                      Asdasd1234 @Danal
                      last edited by Asdasd1234 13 Mar 2020, 21:31

                      @Danal
                      Ah, so I could do the following?

                      • G28 home the machine
                      • Jog machine to start of file.
                      • Run macro that does:
                        -G10 L20 P2 X0 Y0 Z0
                        -G55
                      • Then run the file?

                      Sorry for all the questions, I just realllly dont want to crash the machine into an axis or the bed etc

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                        Danal @Asdasd1234
                        last edited by Danal 13 Mar 2020, 21:31

                        @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                        Ok so am I right in saying :

                        • I have a gcode file (just a re-named .nc file from fusion 360)
                        • I home my machine using g28.
                        • I jog the machine to the start of the file gcode
                        • Use G10 L20 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 To set the co-ords for the start of the file.
                        • then run the file?

                        How do I ensure the file runs using the work co-ords and not the machine co-ords? Do I need to specify it at the start of the file?

                        You are basically correct, here is a slight rephrasing of a couple of lines, just for clarity.

                        • I have a gcode file (just a re-named .nc file from fusion 360) Correct, upload that file via the Web interface
                        • I home my machine using g28. Correct
                        • I jog the machine to the start of the file gcode to the tip of the cutter just touching the origin of the stock. Normally in the 'lower left' corner, and just touching top-of-stock in Z.
                        • Use G10 L20 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 To set the co-ords for the start of the file. the second work-coordinate-system (G55) to match the physical object I want to cut
                        • then run the file? Issue a G55, then, Yes, in the Jobs tab, click then file, then OK

                        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                          Danal @Asdasd1234
                          last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:32

                          @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                          G28 home the machine
                          Jog machine to start of file.
                          Run macro that does:
                          -G10 L20 P2 X0 Y0 Z0
                          -G55
                          Then run the file?

                          Yes

                          Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                            Asdasd1234 @Danal
                            last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:32

                            @Danal
                            Thats great, I'll try that now. Thanks a bunch for the help people. Its much appreciated

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                              Danal
                              last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:33

                              No problem.

                              This does assume you've set Z0 to top of stock in Fusion. This is a fairly normal CNC practice.

                              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                Asdasd1234 @Danal
                                last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:35

                                @Danal
                                I'm pretty sure I have, but will double check

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                                  Asdasd1234
                                  last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:48

                                  Ah, I might have an issue.

                                  F360, when set to grbl only lists out the co-ordinates and doesn't do a G1/0 before them like:

                                  G1 Z1 F500
                                  Z-1.999
                                  Y26.033 Z-2 F1200
                                  Y26.034
                                  X28.967 Y26.035
                                  X28.595 Y26.047
                                  X28.194 Y26.057
                                  X27.792 Y26.067

                                  Will this still work?

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                                    Danal
                                    last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 21:52

                                    No. Duet doesn't support "sticky" G1 or G0. You will need to select a different post processor, or modify that one.

                                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                      Danal
                                      last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 22:01

                                      I use Mach3 post. Which isn't perfect, but it does put G1 on each line.

                                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                        Asdasd1234
                                        last edited by 13 Mar 2020, 22:04

                                        i found a post processor online for duet. I need to manually delete out the G54 at the start, but my test pen-plot has come out perfect. Thanks a bunch!

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                                          A Former User @Asdasd1234
                                          last edited by A Former User 13 Mar 2020, 23:02

                                          @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                                          I have a gcode file (just a re-named .nc file from fusion 360)

                                          you can edit the .cps file and change the line that says (line 28 in the grbl if thats what you used)
                                          extension = "nc";
                                          to say
                                          extension = "gcode";
                                          to not have to do the renaming.

                                          @Asdasd1234 said in Is there a basic guide to set the duet up as a CNC:

                                          I need to manually delete out the G54 at the start

                                          try putting a "2" in WCS offset here if you wanted G55 instead.
                                          Setup -> Post process tab:
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                                          (edit: or you could edit the file and change 1 to 2 in line 353 to make it permament and not have to set it each time.)
                                          ((or search for var workOffset = currentSection.workOffset;and change workOffset = 1; to workOffset = 2; a few lines below if your post is different from the grbl))
                                          (((or if you just wanted to get rid of the whole G54 thing try changeing the Safe retracts parameter in the post to ClearanceHeight
                                          bc723522-0a24-4561-9959-30403c9e2562-image.png )))

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