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    • celulariundefined
      celulari @dc42
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      @dc42 said in inverting Z-probe pin:

      I'll enable inversion of analog pins in 3.01-RC5.

      THANK YOU!!!

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      • gtj0undefined
        gtj0 @dc42
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        @dc42 said in inverting Z-probe pin:

        I'll enable inversion of analog pins in 3.01-RC5.

        Thanks. I need that as well.

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        • tekkydaveundefined
          tekkydave
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          Just tried 3.01-RC5 and my analog piezo probe is no longer working. OK in 3.01-RC4.

          In RC4 it sits at 525 when untriggered but in RC5 it sits at 497 and does not respond to pressure on the probe.

          Defined like this

          M558 P1 C"^!zprobe.in" R0.5 H3 F360 T9000 A5 S0.03       ; P1 = Analogue mode 
          G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P530                                     ; X, Y, Z offsets, P530 = trigger threshold
          

          Do I need to change anything for RC5?

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          • tekkydaveundefined
            tekkydave
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            Works OK in Digital Mode in 3.01RC5

            M558 P8 C"^!zprobe.in" R0.5 H3 F240 T9000 A5 S0.03      ; P8 = Digital mode (unfiltered)
            G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P100                                    ; X, Y, Z offsets, P100 = debounce interval
            
            

            Something has changed between RC4 and RC5. I only have one probe which should default to probe 0 so nothing to do with the new K parameter.

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            • celulariundefined
              celulari @tekkydave
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              @tekkydave i'm using mine in analog mode and is working as intended... Funny thing, never managed to work in digital mode

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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                @tekkydave The implication from the couple of posts before your first one is that analogue pins can't be inverted, so the "!" in your initial config wasn't doing anything. Try without it, as the inversion works as of RC5.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • tekkydaveundefined
                  tekkydave @celulari
                  last edited by tekkydave

                  @celulari said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                  @tekkydave i'm using mine in analog mode and is working as intended... Funny thing, never managed to work in digital mode

                  Are you using the PP V2.85 board? If so remember you need to move the connector to the next set of pins in from the edge to pick up the 'D' output. Apologies if you already knew that but I keep forgetting myself 🙂

                  Mine works great in analog mode except in 3.01RC5. I prefer analog as you don't need to fiddle with the crappy pots on the pcb. I had a V2 pcb and the pots fell apart after about 20 adjustments. The only downside is the 1/3 slowdown but @dc42 said this in a previous post:

                  " it's likely that in a future version of RRF3 I will remove the automatic slowdown and replace it with 2 configurable feedrates in the M558 command: a fast feedrate for initial probing, and a slower feedrate for the second and subsequent probes, for those types of sensor that benefit from slow probing."

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                  • tekkydaveundefined
                    tekkydave @droftarts
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                    • tekkydaveundefined
                      tekkydave @droftarts
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                      @droftarts said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                      @tekkydave The implication from the couple of posts before your first one is that analogue pins can't be inverted, so the "!" in your initial config wasn't doing anything. Try without it, as the inversion works as of RC5.

                      Ian

                      That fixed it - many thanks 🙂

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                      • celulariundefined
                        celulari @tekkydave
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                        @tekkydave said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                        Are you using the PP V2.85 board? If so remember you need to move the connector to the next set of pins in from the edge to pick up the 'D' output. Apologies if you already knew that but I keep forgetting myself 🙂

                        Mine works great in analog mode except in 3.01RC5. I prefer analog as you don't need to fiddle with the crappy pots on the pcb. I had a V2 pcb and the pots fell apart after about 20 adjustments. The only downside is the 1/3 slowdown but @dc42 said this in a previous post:

                        " it's likely that in a future version of RRF3 I will remove the automatic slowdown and replace it with 2 configurable feedrates in the M558 command: a fast feedrate for initial probing, and a slower feedrate for the second and subsequent probes, for those types of sensor that benefit from slow probing."

                        I didn't knew about that! thanks, i will try, but now is working fine with RC5 as i can now invert the analog pin

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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                          @tekkydave said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                          That fixed it - many thanks

                          Funny, because I didn't think it would! It's probably the pull up resistor ^ that you 'needed' to stop it being permanently triggered.

                          Ian

                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                          • tekkydaveundefined
                            tekkydave @droftarts
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                            @droftarts said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                            @tekkydave said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                            That fixed it - many thanks

                            Funny, because I didn't think it would! It's probably the pull up resistor ^ that you 'needed' to stop it being permanently triggered.

                            Ian

                            The ! must have been in there from an earlier release but had become redundant. Until RC5 came along and actually inverted the input, stopping it from working.
                            The pullup (^) is only needed in digital mode. It probably doesn't do anything in analog mode; why would you pull up an analog input?

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                            • droftartsundefined
                              droftarts administrators @tekkydave
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                              @tekkydave said in inverting Z-probe pin:

                              why would you pull up an analog input?

                              Good point, I'm a bit tired and not thinking so well!

                              Ian

                              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                              • tekkydaveundefined
                                tekkydave
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                                I've just removed the ^ too and as expected - makes no difference.

                                Correct setup for analog is

                                M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" R0.5 H3 F360 T9000 A5 S0.03         ; P1 = Analogue mode
                                G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P530                                     ; X, Y, Z offsets, P530 = trigger threshold
                                

                                and for digital:

                                M558 P8 C"^!zprobe.in" R0.5 H3 F240 T9000 A5 S0.03      ; P8 = Digital mode (unfiltered)
                                G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P100                                    ; X, Y, Z offsets, P100 = debounce interval
                                
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