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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      Can you send M122 after you experience this?

      Your e steps are quite high and the acceleration is quite high, so I'm wondering if you're getting any hiccups which would be reported in M122.

      Try reducing your E accel.

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      • KenDundefined
        KenD @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt Motor currents are just about maxed out for these little guys

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        • KenDundefined
          KenD @Phaedrux
          last edited by KenD

          @Phaedrux Yeah, Jerk and accel are really high because I was trying different things to see if I could get a response. Esteps are calibrated. It will extrude accurately just slowly. I've since pulled the jerk and accel way down to 1000 and 200 and am still looking.

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          • botundefined
            bot @KenD
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            @KenD Lower them to the bare minimum for testing. See if you can hit 10 mm/s (without filament) with the jerk at something like 1 mm/s and the accel at like 100 mm/s.

            If your jerk is set to 15 mm/s, acceleration never comes into play (when commanding below 15 mm/s speeds). that's not true because jerk only comes into play during a retract or the like.

            *not actually a robot

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            • KenDundefined
              KenD
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              I ordered a new nozzle from M3D a few moments ago. These nozzles have a 2 piece steel and PTFE liner inside them and I cant get them apart. I'm hoping the quad PTFE liner is just melted inside.

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              • KenDundefined
                KenD
                last edited by

                installed a new nozzle and I've set jerk to 1mm/s and accell to 50mm/s and it still won't extrude faster than 5mm/s

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @KenD
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                  @KenD said in Extruder motors won't run faster than 5mm/s:

                  it still won't extrude faster than 5mm/s

                  And that's with no filament loaded?

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                  • KenDundefined
                    KenD @Phaedrux
                    last edited by KenD

                    @Phaedrux Without filament loaded I can run all the extruders as fast as I want. So to eliminate the possibility of the nozzle being the problem I removed the nozzle and heat block completely, loaded all 4 filaments into the print head and disabled cold extrude checking in Duet via M302 P1. All 4 motors respond the same, after 5mm/s they fail. They begin to extrude or retract at higher speeds like 60 or 80 mm/s and then just quit moving. And to confuse matters more you can still hear the motors making a whining noise after filament stops moving. Could the drivers on Duet be bad? This is brand new Duet 2 and Duex 5.

                    I am noticing now that every once in a while it will actually extrude properly. i replaced one of the 4 motors and have the same results. 2 of the extruders are on the Duet and the other two are on the Duex5. Really starting to seem like a board issue.

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                    • botundefined
                      bot @KenD
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                      @KenD is this a mixing extruder? What's the gearing on the motors? How is that done? What is the maximum current rating of the motors?

                      *not actually a robot

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                      • JamesMundefined
                        JamesM
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                        I just read the specs on that extruder and noticed that they state it comes with a pt1000 thermistor...Looking at your config it appears you have your thermistor configured like a normal E3D cartridge thermistor, could it be that you have your thermistor set incorrectly so the temperatures reported are incorrect?

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @KenD
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                          @KenD Could it be that whatever hobbed bolt arrangement is used to grip the filament is slipping on the motor shaft? It would explain why you can hear the motors after the filament had stopped extruding.
                          For info, the only Quad I saw running a demo print was soooo slow. Maybe 5mm/sec extruder speed is the max that those tiny motors can do.

                          Ian
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