Duet3D System won't turn on now

Jim46 · 2 Apr 2020, 20:35

Bearer, thanks for sticking with me here. I've run lsusb on the Pi using a 12" cable between Pi and Duet instead of the 6' cable I used between my PC and the Duet. Any better info?

A Former User · 4 Feb 2020, 20:38

Hmm, lsusb shoud show you either
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 03eb:6124 Atmel Corp. at91sam SAMBA bootloader
or
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1d50:60ee OpenMoko, Inc.

if the cable is okay; the latter is what you'll see once the firmware is successfully updated, until then it will show as the first entry. None of the entries would suggest the cable isn't working, or at least lacking the data connection.

Jim46 · 2 Apr 2020, 20:57

Hi, I reran the wget on the Pi with the short USB cable mentioned above, Here is the result:
The lsusb looks a lot like yours. Yet the results above it say no device found...doesn't sound great!

A Former User · 2 Apr 2020, 21:02

@Jim46 said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

above it say no device found...doesn't sound great!

will never be any difference between just lsusb and the output at the end of the script wget downloads and runs btw; they do the exact same thing.

it could be the cable you changed to is one of those charging only type of cables, which you can easily enough test by going back to the one that partially worked.

Jim46 · 2 Apr 2020, 21:18

I dug up a 3rd 12' USB cable and reran wget. Here are the results. Progress?

Jim46 · 2 Apr 2020, 21:19

Opps 12" cable number 3

droftarts · 2 Apr 2020, 21:20

@Jim46 I have little knowledge of the Raspberry Pi, but when it comes to flashing firmware to Duets... I wrote the documentation! The original issue seems to have been a corrupted firmware, and now you're trying to run a firmware update with Bossa on the Pi. But have you put a jumper on the ERASE pins (you know, the ones I thought you'd left a jumper on before), powered up the Duet for 5 seconds, powered down, removed the jumper, then tried updating the firmware? You may need to do this a few times; despite showing a Bossa port, the firmware sometimes seems quite tenacious. Also, make sure your Bossa version is 1.9.1, or the Duet 3 processor won't be supported.

Alternatively, switch to a Windows desktop and run Bossa from there. Always works first time for me on Windows. The Mac version of Bossa is broken for Duet 3, unfortunately.

Ian

A Former User · 2 Apr 2020, 21:27

@Jim46 said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

I dug up a 3rd 12' USB cable and reran wget. Here are the results. Progress?

Bingo! you now have RRF3 3.0 running on your duet.

@droftarts said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

Also, make sure your Bossa version is 1.9.1

the script he ran builds it from git and sorts out everything (when the cable works:)

droftarts · 2 Apr 2020, 21:32

@bearer Ah, that all happened while I was writing my post! Wow, this has been a journey. Well done to everyone for persevering, and especially to you for your knowledge.

What's the major learning from this thread, that I can document?

Ian

A Former User · 4 Feb 2020, 21:41

@droftarts said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

What's the major learning from this thread, that I can document?

that he didn't run M115 a week ago when asked to do so

.. anyways; hopefully he gets duetcontrolserver started and connected to duetwebcontrol; i believe the systemd unit will keep trying dcs, if not a reboot should get it going.

A Former User · 2 Apr 2020, 23:11

@droftarts said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

What's the major learning from this thread, that I can document?

come to think of it, its at least the 2nd time someone has said bossa failed because "file not found" when using the graphical version - partly why i figured copy/paste one line is a simpler instruction than installing software, setting options etc.

Jim46 · 3 Apr 2020, 00:56

Hi All, thank you for your amazing help. Based on what comes up now, it may be a break through. Here is what I see. BTW, I have tried M115 many times but nothing worked. Presently, YAT says I don't have a Serial Port available. Not sure how to see a list to see what is going on.

Right now I'm not able to look at Duet Web Control 2. Not sure why.
Do you think things are looking better

Jim46 · 3 Apr 2020, 01:07

Okay, it said Duet Web Control briefly before it brought up the raspberrypi screen above. Is this normal? if this is okay, is setting up the parameters to match my custom printer the next step?

Jim46 · 3 Apr 2020, 01:12

I would like to make the motors move to ensure what they are doing before I install them on the printer frame.

Danal · 4 Mar 2020, 01:18

That screen looks great. YES, it is time to load your configuration. This is on the "system" tab.

You can make motors move. Reminder: POWER OFF when plugging or unplugging motors!!

X, Y and Z won't move until the printer is homed. Enter "M564 H0" to allow movement. Enter it in the "send code" line at the top. Some releases of DWC have a bug that you must push the "Send" button twice. It won't hurt anything to send this command more than once.

Also, your extruder motor will not turn until the extruder is hot. Enter "M302 P1" to allow cold extrudes.

A Former User · 4 Mar 2020, 05:51

@Jim46 said in Duet3D System won't turn on now:

BTW, I have tried M115 many times but nothing worked.

Just to be clear, when you ran the wget .. | bash command and it ended with "FIRMWARENAME RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 .." that was the script running M115 after the flashing. All M115 does is to print out the version number of the currently running firmware, its not some magic bullet to fix any problem, just a diagnostic tool to confirm the board is running properly. (if you were unable to replicate that after it would suggest there is a problem with the usb cable, or possibly drivers on the computer - which is why I asked you to use the Pi that I know doesn't need any drivers)

Right now I'm not able to look at Duet Web Control 2. Not sure why.

Your're posting this right under a picture showing Duet Web Control is running with the Duet 3 powered only from USB. (Or indicating that there is a fuse blown preventing the board from seeing Vin)

There is clearly still a learning curve to get the board configured and running with your printer, but at least the hardware seems to be functioning.

Have you been to https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org/General to generate a starting point for your configuration?

Jim46 · 3 Apr 2020, 15:04

Thank you Bearer, Danal, Droftarts, NexxCat et al for helping me get to this point. Was there one recent thing made the difference? Yes, I expect a steep learning curve on the set up since this a custom FDM style machine. I'll be going to the RepRap in a few minutes. Cheers!

A Former User · 3 Apr 2020, 15:15

Its been interesting and I'm glad you're making progress! Best advice would be to loose your preconceptions as to what is causing the problems and listen to the suggestions offered even if it might not seem to make sense.

If something is unclear, ask for clarification. There isn't much this forum can't solve given a little elbow grease and patience.

Jim46 · 5 Apr 2020, 21:04

Greetings Gentlemen, hope you and yours are all well and happy.
From where we left off, I've gone to the reprap link above and am presented a blank screen. Is there something I need to delete or add to the URL?
Also, what is a simple way, if possible, to test the stepper motors now connected to the Duet3D? The Meanwell 24v PS is now connected to the Duet.

droftarts · 5 Apr 2020, 21:12

@Jim46 if you mean the config tool, the link is working for me. Should work in any browser.

Ian