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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @weput
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      @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

      I'm tempted to do that.

      if the unstable reading is persisting, then as dc42 suggest its not adviceable.

      Otherwise any 100mA or smaller fast acting fuse will provide some protection if wired between VSSA and GND.

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      • weputundefined
        weput @A Former User
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        @bearer that's the thing...

        It's not going to be easy to find a fuse that small with the Lockdown.

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
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          Its your call, the fuse did blow because of a short on your thermistor - if it happens again without a fuse something else will blow.

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          • weputundefined
            weput
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            I'll make a permanent short and check the reading for like 10 mins...

            I don't want to blow the board but I assume is better this than setting one of those old 8 bits on.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              What hardware revision Duet is it?

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              • weputundefined
                weput @dc42
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                @dc42 said in Error on Thermistors:

                ?

                This is one of those preorders boards... (numbered 138) preorder group 2.

                so i assume hardware ver1.0

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @weput
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                  @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

                  @dc42 said in Error on Thermistors:

                  ?

                  This is one of those preorders boards... (numbered 138) preorder group 2.

                  so i assume hardware ver1.0

                  Thanks. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_VSSA_fuse.

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                  • weputundefined
                    weput @dc42
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                    @dc42 Thank you.

                    I've seen that... unfortunately with this covid-19 lockdown i assume i'll have to install and run on 8 bits for a while.

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      In the UK at least, the major component distributors are still shipping components. What country are you in?

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                      • weputundefined
                        weput @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in Error on Thermistors:

                        In the UK at least, the major component distributors are still shipping components. What country are you in?

                        Panama.

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                        • dc42undefined
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                          If you have a resistor with a value in the range 2 to 10 ohms, you could temporarily connect that between VSSA and ground instead of the fuse. Space it well off the board, because it will burn up if you get a short between VSSA and VIN - which may be what caused the VSSA fuse to blow.

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                          • clearlynotstefundefined
                            clearlynotstef
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                            Personally I used a tube fuse and little holder thing, but you could even solder directly to the fuse if you could get one of them. There's gotta be someplace still selling standard fuses online near you

                            https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X7B6FPI/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_TyFIEb1C2DN29

                            https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VLBAF84/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_bFFIEbQQWNZKN

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                            • weputundefined
                              weput
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                              ok guys...

                              we are still in lock down so no luck to getting the fuse or the resistors...

                              (im fine as i have another printer running...)

                              Anyways, I'm thinking on breaking one of those x-mast decoration light cords (the ones that comes with like 150 small bulbs wired in series) to use one incandescent bulb... its a low resistive lineal load and if something happens it should manage the power by emitting light...

                              .,.. then i recalled i have a few small led's laying around... technically the same principle with the 0.7v drop.... anyways,

                              here im asking.. what do you think?

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User
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                                is there not a gas station or anything like that you can get a fuse from? (they might not have very small values though, but might for motor cycles)

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                                • weputundefined
                                  weput @A Former User
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                                  @bearer said in Error on Thermistors:

                                  is there not a gas station or anything like that you can get a fuse from? (they might not have very small values though, but might for motor cycles)

                                  the smaller they had was 10 amps... the fuse should be rated for 100mA... max 200

                                  way too much current.

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                                  • weputundefined
                                    weput
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                                    Just to let you know guys (assuming you care)

                                    i pull out a potenciometer from my electric guitar... so the printer is going to be running soon.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @weput
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                                      @weput said in Error on Thermistors:

                                      ok guys...

                                      we are still in lock down so no luck to getting the fuse or the resistors...

                                      (im fine as i have another printer running...)

                                      Anyways, I'm thinking on breaking one of those x-mast decoration light cords (the ones that comes with like 150 small bulbs wired in series) to use one incandescent bulb... its a low resistive lineal load and if something happens it should manage the power by emitting light...

                                      .,.. then i recalled i have a few small led's laying around... technically the same principle with the 0.7v drop.... anyways,

                                      here im asking.. what do you think?

                                      The incandescent bulb should work.

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                                      • weputundefined
                                        weput @dc42
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                                        @dc42 (y)

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                                        • weputundefined
                                          weput
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                                          funny...

                                          i was about to place the fuse... but because i had to remove the cables i had fro the potensiometer...

                                          ... checked the continuity and happens that the original fuse has continuity.

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                                          • weputundefined
                                            weput
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                                            stupid question...
                                            what is the actual resistance i should measure between vssa and gnd?

                                            the thermistors are oscilating way too much...

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