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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
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      @felixlvh said in Heater Fault:

      Hi @dc42, i have the same issue as mentioned above. can you eleborate how can i use a multimeter to verify if i have vssa fuse blown? i am pretty sure all wiring are ok and now i am getting open circuit error message. thanks a ton!

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      @dc42 said in Heater Fault:

      Yes, if your Duet is a revision 1.0 or 1.01 then with power off, use a multimeter to measure the resistance between VSSA on a thermistor pin and GND on an endstop pin. It should read no more than a few ohms. If instead it's very high, the VSSA fuse has blown, which will make all thermistors read 2000C.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=test+fuse+multimeter

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      • felixlvhundefined
        felixlvh
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        @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

        https://www.google.com/search?q=test+fuse+multimeter

        Hi @bearer thanks for your reply.

        I look closer to my board and found something is blown as screenshot. I am not sure if this is VSSA, can you point me to the right fuse?

        https://ibb.co/3FKtpV2

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
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          Which revision board is it?

          First picture is a fan output, looks damaged. (TR1 designates transistor, as in mosfet)

          Fuse should have been a fairly large 1206 smd part (3.6x1.6mm) in the second picture, fuses are designated Fn.

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          • felixlvhundefined
            felixlvh
            last edited by felixlvh

            Hi @bearer

            It should be 1.02. i searched around and found the vssa. assumed i am on the right fuse, the multimeter doesn't give me any reading. do i need to connect to power? thanks again!

            https://ibb.co/TYb2MNS

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User @felixlvh
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              @felixlvh said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

              do i need to connect to power

              no, it should measure as close to 0 ohm when its ok, but it can be tricky to pierce oxide layer on old solder joints. You could repeat the measurement between Vin- and both pins on the thermistor input (one of them should be close to 0 ohm if the fuse ok)

              Looks to be the right part, but smaller on rev 1.2.

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              • felixlvhundefined
                felixlvh
                last edited by felixlvh

                @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                no, it should measure as close to 0 ohm when its ok, but it can be tricky to pierce oxide layer on old solder joints. You could repeat the measurement between Vin- and both pins on the thermistor input (one of them should be close to 0 ohm if the fuse ok)

                Looks to be the right part, but smaller on rev 1.2.

                Thanks @bearer , in this case i don't think my vssa fuse is blown.

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                • felixlvhundefined
                  felixlvh
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                  @dc42 @bearer

                  i have tried to disconnect all wires to isolate the issue. i am plugging in the extruder heaters e1, extruder thermistors, bed thermistor, heated bed still showing the same error. do you think is should get a new board?

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by

                      if you measure the resistance across the two pins of the thermistor plug, when its not connected to the board wht do you get?

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                      • felixlvhundefined
                        felixlvh @A Former User
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                        @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                        not connected to the board wht do you get?

                        @bearer , i got reading 80.3K

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                          A Former User @felixlvh
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                          @felixlvh said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                          80.3K

                          config says its a 100k thermistor so it should be about right

                          maybe you should connect vssa directly to ground on a unused thermistor input now that you have nothing else connected; power from usb and see if that makes a difference

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                          • felixlvhundefined
                            felixlvh @A Former User
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                            @bearer Thanks, i am still uncertain about the vssa fuse. if you see the image here, https://ibb.co/TYb2MNS i got reading 90.9K. i can now confirm board is v1.01.

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              you should get pretty much 0. (or at least single digit ohms)

                              if you have a wire handy, run it as shown here, connect the thermistor to e0 or bed and power from usb.

                              1758b6d1-6087-4aab-90aa-29698c5a34e8-image.png

                              (it'll bypass the fuse, which should be safe when only the thermistor and usb is connected)

                              edit: seems the 1.02 board do not have a resettable fuse
                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_VSSA_fuse

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                              • felixlvhundefined
                                felixlvh
                                last edited by felixlvh

                                @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                                vssa directly to ground

                                @bearer If i did it correctly, It still shows the same error 2000'C

                                error.jpg

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  you've got the thermistor connected to e1 and configured for e0? move it to e0?

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                                  • felixlvhundefined
                                    felixlvh
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                                    @bearer said in Error: Temperature reading fault on heater 0:

                                    configured

                                    @bearer OMG, E0 works!

                                    e0.jpg

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                                    • A Former User?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      so you need a new fuse, ref the wiki link above.

                                      edit; and you probably have to remap or repair fan2 as well.

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                                      • felixlvhundefined
                                        felixlvh
                                        last edited by

                                        @bearer am i right to say usign external fuse like this? can i still print by bypassing it temporarily? thanks a ton!

                                        external fue.jpg

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                                        • A Former User?
                                          A Former User
                                          last edited by A Former User

                                          if the pins read vssa and gnd, then yes. (also very low value fuse, less is better, wiki says "between 125 and 250mA and a resistance of between 2 and 4 ohms.")

                                          you can print with a bypass either a wire instead of the fuse, or like you tested - BUT there is likely a reason the fuse blew and the fan blew - your fan and thermistor have likely shorted on the hotend; and if it happens again with no fuse the CPU will likely be damaged.

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