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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators
      last edited by

      Ian that is a good point. I just check in s3d and my tool numbering starts at 0, but i may have changed it to do that back in the mists of time.

      Willy510 have a look for the T numbers in the gcode file you are trying to print. are they T0,T1 or T1,T2?

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      • Willy510undefined
        Willy510
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        The tool # are T0 , T1 in the G code so S3D must be doing something else
        This is the G code that S3D generated for the file on my Google drive.
        https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Byhn5jHeuRelRm96eGYyaUFyQTQ
        This is what the screen looks like after the first layer and there is nothing in the G code console. The screen display is also frozen until I disconnect and reconnect, I can click the buttons to move the gantry and bed around but the bed temp and tool temp functions are display are frozen and it turns them all off.

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman
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          That's all very odd. I note that you are using absolute extrusion rather than relative but it should work as there is an M82 command at the start of the gcode. Just before the T1 command, there is a G92 E0 to reset the extruder followed by a G1 E-12. Does the machine do that 12mm retraction before it locks up?

          Ian
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          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
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            Try Changing tools (T1, T0 in the gcode console and see if the machine freezes when you change to tool 1

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              Were both heaters up to temperature when the print started?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • Willy510undefined
                Willy510
                last edited by

                Both heaters were up to temp before print started.

                When I just tried to change tools in the console it lets me select T0 fine but does freeze up when I try T1.
                What would this be?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  Try pressing control-shift-J in Chrome or Firefox, to see if there have been any exceptions in the browser.

                  Which version of DWC are you using, and which version of firmware?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • Willy510undefined
                    Willy510
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                    control-shift-J in chrome resulted in
                    thread.php:278 Mixed Content: The page at 'https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=1174' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure image 'http://i67.tinypic.com/28qtgyd.jpg'. This content should also be served over HTTPS.

                    and from my Duet Wifi

                    Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi
                    Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.0
                    Firmware Version: 1.17e (2017-02-10)
                    WiFi Server Version: 1.03 (ch fork)
                    Web Interface Version: 1.14a

                    Seems to have happen to someone before but they didn't says exactly how it was fixed.
                    https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=777

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      I meant press control-shift-J when displaying the DWC page that still says it is connected but is no longer updating. Or you can press control-shift-J before it stops updating, and see what message appears when it stops updating.

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman
                        last edited by

                        In that instance, the OP claimed that it was fixed when he used someone else's config.g and that the only difference he could see was that he had used two M92 commands and his friend only had one. However, it's hard to see how that could have been the cause and it clearly isn't the cause in this case.

                        The fact that it happens when changing tools through the web interface indicates that it is nothing to do with the S3D generated gcode file.

                        Although my machine is completely different to yours, it was similar to the machine used in the post you linked to. The only difference I can see between my config.g and both yours and the other guy who had the problem is that I use M555 P2 to set the firmware to look like Marlin and yours and the other guys used M555 P1 to set it to look like RepRap. I have no idea if this could be the reason by just humour an old man and try changing M555 from P1 to P2.

                        Ian

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                        • Willy510undefined
                          Willy510
                          last edited by

                          Failed to load resource: net::ERR_NETWORK_CHANGED is what I get before on the DWC but this time I sliced from S3D and changed the temperature identifier for the bed from T2 as S3D sets it to T0 in the FFF settings and it started to print using each extruder !!!! but then every layer started shifting about 9 or 10mm.
                          Any ideas for either issue?

                          Also I really appreciate the help from everyone , thanks

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman
                            last edited by

                            My guess at the layer shift would be that you've set the tool offset in both Duet and S3D perhaps?

                            Ian
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                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            • Willy510undefined
                              Willy510
                              last edited by

                              not sure what happened but now it has gone back to freezing after a layer or so as I was trying to adjust the tool offsets
                              This is what control shift J gets now

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by

                                Try firmware 1.18beta3 and DWC 1.15. i think that version of DWC may include a relevant fix.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • Willy510undefined
                                  Willy510
                                  last edited by

                                  updated both and like the new layout but it still freezes

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                                  • Willy510undefined
                                    Willy510
                                    last edited by

                                    SUCCESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like crap but I'm calling it a success
                                    I'm not sure what fixed it exactly but I tried a new config file and all of the slicers G code works fine now

                                    This was my old config that froze after the first layer:

                                    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
                                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                    ;
                                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Mar 25 2017 08:23:52 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

                                    ; General preferences
                                    M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                                    G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
                                    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                    M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
                                    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                    M208 X300 Y300 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                    ; Endstops
                                    M574 Z0 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
                                    M574 X2 Y2 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
                                    M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
                                    G31 P500 X0 Y15 Z1.63 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                    M557 X15:285 Y15:285 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                    M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                    M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                    M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes backwards
                                    M350 X64 Y64 Z64 E64:64 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                    M92 X322 Y322 Z1600 E1680:1680 ; Set steps per mm
                                    M566 X1000 Y1000 Z12 E120:E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                    M203 X9000 Y9000 Z180 E1200:1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                    M201 X3200 Y3200 Z16 E3200:3200 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                    M906 X1050 Y1050 Z1050 E1000:1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                    ; Heaters
                                    M143 S285 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 285C
                                    M305 P0 T10000 B3988 C0 R470 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                    M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                    M305 P2 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2

                                    ; Tools
                                    M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                    G10 P0 X8 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                    M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
                                    G10 P1 X-8 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
                                    G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                    ; Network
                                    M550 PFT-5 ; Set machine name
                                    M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                    ; Fans
                                    M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M106 P1 S0.5 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                    M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                    ; Custom settings are not configured

                                    And here's the one that works without a problem so far:

                                    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
                                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                    ;
                                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sun Mar 26 2017 19:51:07 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

                                    ; General preferences
                                    M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                                    G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
                                    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                    M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                                    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                    M208 X290 Y275 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                    ; Endstops
                                    M574 Z0 S0 ; Define active low and unused microswitches
                                    M574 X2 Y1 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
                                    M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T8400 ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the probe + travel speeds
                                    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z1.63 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                    M557 X15:275 Y15:260 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                    M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P2 S0 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                    M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                    M569 P4 S0 ; Drive 4 goes forwards
                                    M350 X64 Y64 Z64 E64:64 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                                    M92 X322 Y322 Z1600 E1680:1680 ; Set steps per mm
                                    M566 X1000 Y1000 Z12 E120:120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                    M203 X9000 Y9000 Z180 E1200:1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                    M201 X3200 Y3200 Z250 E3200:3200 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                    M906 X1050 Y1050 Z1050 E1050:1050 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                    ; Heaters
                                    M143 S280 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 280C
                                    M305 P0 T10000 B3988 C0 R470 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                    M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                    M305 P2 T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2

                                    ; Tools
                                    M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                    G10 P0 X9 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                    M563 P1 D1 H2 ; Define tool 1
                                    G10 P1 X-9 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
                                    G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                    ; Network
                                    M550 PMy printer ; Set machine name
                                    M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                    ; Fans
                                    M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                    M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                    ; Custom settings are not configured

                                    ; Miscellaneous
                                    T0 ; Select first tool

                                    Hopefully this might help figure it out or just help someone else out.

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman
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                                      This bears out what I said in my last post (yesterday at 20.55). The one common factor is that the problem occurs when the config.g has the output is set to look like RepRap (M555 P1) but changing config.g so that the output looks like Marlin (M555 P2) fixes it.

                                      I'm unable to test this hypothesis myself as I have a hardware fault which prevents me from connecting via WiFi but if the OP or someone else can do that quick test, it'll prove it for sure. Then I guess either something needs to be changed in the firmware or DWC or the documentation needs to state that compatibility needs to be set to Marlin (M555 P2). There is no mention of it here https://duet3d.com/wiki/G-code#M555:_Set_compatibility but maybe there is somewhere else?

                                      HTH
                                      Ian

                                      Ian
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                                      • Willy510undefined
                                        Willy510
                                        last edited by

                                        @deckingman:

                                        This bears out what I said in my last post (yesterday at 20.55). The one common factor is that the problem occurs when the config.g has the output is set to look like RepRap (M555 P1) but changing config.g so that the output looks like Marlin (M555 P2) fixes it.

                                        I'm unable to test this hypothesis myself as I have a hardware fault which prevents me from connecting via WiFi but if the OP or someone else can do that quick test, it'll prove it for sure. Then I guess either something needs to be changed in the firmware or DWC or the documentation needs to state that compatibility needs to be set to Marlin (M555 P2). There is no mention of it here https://duet3d.com/wiki/G-code#M555:_Set_compatibility but maybe there is somewhere else?

                                        HTH
                                        Ian

                                        You are probably correct since I went back and checked and when I made the config file that worked through the online configurator that I had forgotten to select the firmware comparability to RepRap and it had been left on Marlin compatibility for the config that works.

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                                        • deckingmanundefined
                                          deckingman
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                                          @Willy510:

                                          You are probably correct since I went back and checked and when I made the config file that worked through the online configurator that I had forgotten to select the firmware comparability to RepRap and it had been left on Marlin compatibility for the config that works.

                                          Yeah! I'm glad we found the reason - I hate not knowing what causes something. Hopefully David or Tony will see this and take the necessary steps to either get the firmware or DWC changed, or alternatively amend the documentation to say that compatibility should be set to Marlin.

                                          Ian

                                          Ian
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                                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
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                                            It's good this is worked out. I will alert Christian to the issue.

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