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    • AlexTheGreatundefined
      AlexTheGreat
      last edited by

      I went to start a print and noticed the bed wasn't heating up. Upon further inspection I noticed that the terminal on the board is actually burnt. What happened? How do I fix it?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Were you using crimped ferrules on the bed wires?

        You may be able to replace the terminal if no other damage has been done to the board or surrounding components.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_Screw_Terminals

        It is recommended to use bootlace ferrules for power and bed wiring. Loose wires, or tinned wires, have a tendency to creep over time and cause a loose connection. This in turn increases the resistance and heat generation and even arcing.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_bed_heater?revisionid=HEAD#Section_Low_voltage_bed_heater_driven_directly_from_the_Duet

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        • AlexTheGreatundefined
          AlexTheGreat
          last edited by

          I was using the bootlace ferrules. That's why I don't understand how it happened? Shouldn't the fuse have blown first?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            That looks like tinned wires to me?

            The fuse holder is empty. I assume you've removed it to check it?

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            • danym21undefined
              danym21 @AlexTheGreat
              last edited by

              @AlexTheGreat
              under the board the blue cable is this damaged?
              and it looks like it was also burned under the board.
              So maybe a short with the damaged cable under the board?

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              • AlexTheGreatundefined
                AlexTheGreat @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux It's whatever wires the ender 3 uses aha

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                • AlexTheGreatundefined
                  AlexTheGreat @danym21
                  last edited by

                  @danym21 No. I pulled out a new bed and hooked it up and it seems to be working alright still. No idea what caused it to happen though.

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                  • danym21undefined
                    danym21 @AlexTheGreat
                    last edited by danym21

                    @AlexTheGreat
                    so all working again?
                    is this your heatbed cables?: e8caf3c2-e16c-4686-b67e-c70e1c32d97d-grafik.png
                    please use crimped cables and not tinned wires.
                    tinned cables become soft and then you lose pressure on the connection, this will heat the connection regarding the higher resistor under load
                    please cut the tinned part of and use crimped connection like this cable:
                    2c0db132-ed00-47d3-847f-927a66d39dd5-grafik.png

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                    • AlexTheGreatundefined
                      AlexTheGreat @danym21
                      last edited by

                      @danym21 Yeah that's the new ones before I crimped them and put them in. Everything seems to be working again for the time being. Would be nice to know what caused it though.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        You can't crimp tinned wires.

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                        • AlexTheGreatundefined
                          AlexTheGreat @Phaedrux
                          last edited by AlexTheGreat

                          @Phaedrux I mean you can. It's just not good practice. But I did cut and crimp them, didn't crimp over the tin.

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                          • zaptaundefined
                            zapta
                            last edited by zapta

                            FYI, If you want to avoid high currents on the duet board or it's green terminals, you can use an external DC SSR or power MOSFET.

                            You can find some information here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_bed_heater

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