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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      For the Z axis steps per mm you'll either need to find the previously used value or calculate it based on the lead screw specs using this formula:

      Z_steps_per_mm = (motor_steps_per_rev * driver_microstep) / screw_lead

      For the Z motor current, use 60-85% of the rated max of the motor. If it's too low, you may not get any movement at all. When you command movement do you hear anything from the motor itself? Change in pitch?

      If you connect a different motor to the Z axis, does it work?

      If you connect the current z motor to another driver, does it work?

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      • aidarundefined
        aidar
        last edited by

        also check that second z motor connection have jumpers installed, as you have only one motor and those connectors are wired in series.

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        • rickypilnikundefined
          rickypilnik
          last edited by rickypilnik

          For the calculation what is screw lead?
          Okay, I'll try the current adjustment and no upon attempted movement nothing is heard or changed. (I think this value is massively off as I j checked the motors and it says 2.5A on them)
          Before changing any settings I switched the Y and Z motors, and both worked, except a tiny increment in the z movement moved the Y a lot and a lot in the y-direction only moved the z a little. This makes me think it's all related to the steps per mm.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
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            Screw lead refers to the amount of movement produced per rotation. A very common lead screw type is TR8*8 which has a diameter of 8mm and one full rotation produces 8mm of lift. Other common sizes would be 1mm, 2mm, 4mm.

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            • rickypilnikundefined
              rickypilnik @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux One more thing, I have steps set to *16 with interpolation to 256. Which value do I use?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @rickypilnik
                last edited by

                x16 microstepping with interpolation to 256 means the firmware uses x16 microstepping for it's calculations and step pulse generation and then the drive chips take those pulses and cho them up into x256 stepping for the motors so they are quieter and smoother.

                So for your purposes, use x16.

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                • rickypilnikundefined
                  rickypilnik
                  last edited by rickypilnik

                  So I've adjusted all the values, X and Y axes home fine but the Z axis still won't home and I'm now getting this error.
                  "Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s) 2"

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Alright, now we're getting somewhere.

                    For the sake of completeness can you post your current config.g with your changes and describe how you're trying to move the axis?

                    Also, can you post a photo of the Z driver chip?

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                    • rickypilnikundefined
                      rickypilnik
                      last edited by rickypilnik

                      config (2).g

                      I press the home Z button on DWC and nothing moves and I hear no noises.

                      (changed all motor currents to 1875mA (max is 2.5A) and Z steps per mm to 400. (200*16)/8 )

                      IMG_0611.JPG

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Swap the plug to the ZA port and put the jumpers on the ZB port and try again.

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                        • rickypilnikundefined
                          rickypilnik
                          last edited by

                          Same as before. Z - Axis still not moving.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by Phaedrux

                            And just to eliminate the homing files, If you send M564 S0 H0 to allow unhomed axis movement are you able to get the z motor to move by using the jogging buttons?

                            And does it still produce the short to ground error message?

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Can you also send M122 in the console and post the response?

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                              • rickypilnikundefined
                                rickypilnik
                                last edited by

                                No I can't move the Z-axis, but x and y are fine even with the message of short to drivers from before.

                                m122
                                === Diagnostics ===
                                RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro version 3.1.1 running on Duet Maestro 1.0
                                Board ID: 08DJM-9X66L-LG3SN-6JKDL-3S06Q-K8X6P
                                Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (10 max)
                                === RTOS ===
                                Static ram: 21924
                                Dynamic ram: 92804 of which 52 recycled
                                Exception stack ram used: 392
                                Never used ram: 15900
                                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,472) HEAT(blocked,1324) MAIN(running,1996) IDLE(ready,84)
                                Owned mutexes:
                                === Platform ===
                                Last reset 00:01:06 ago, cause: power up
                                Last software reset at 2020-05-20 19:20, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 16096 bytes (slot 3)
                                Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0400f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                                Error status: 0
                                MCU temperature: min 32.7, current 35.3, max 35.5
                                Supply voltage: min 0.0, current 15.4, max 15.7, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                                Driver 0: standstill, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 9, reads 2644, timeouts 0
                                Driver 1: standstill, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 9, reads 2644, timeouts 0
                                Driver 2: short-to-ground, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 9, reads 2644, timeouts 0
                                Driver 3: standstill, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 7, reads 2646, timeouts 0
                                Driver 4: standstill, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 6, reads 2647, timeouts 0
                                Driver 5: ok, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 0, reads 0, timeouts 2653
                                Driver 6: ok, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 0, reads 0, timeouts 2652
                                Date/time: 2020-05-20 19:32:27
                                Slowest loop: 10.29ms; fastest: 0.12ms
                                I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                                === Storage ===
                                Free file entries: 9
                                SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 15.0MBytes/sec
                                SD card longest read time 2.6ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                                === Move ===
                                Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 168, MinFreeDm: 168, MaxWait: 26403ms
                                Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                                === MainDDARing ===
                                Scheduled moves: 14, completed moves: 13, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: 3
                                === AuxDDARing ===
                                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0 CDDA state: -1
                                === Heat ===
                                Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                                === GCodes ===
                                Segments left: 0
                                Movement lock held by HTTP
                                HTTP is idle in state(s) 1 8, running macro
                                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                File is idle in state(s) 0
                                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                                Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                                Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                Code queue is empty.
                                === Network ===
                                Slowest loop: 129.03ms; fastest: 0.02ms
                                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                                HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                Interface state active, link 100Mbps full duplex

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @rickypilnik
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                                  @rickypilnik said in Z-Axis not homing:

                                  Supply voltage: min 0.0, current 15.4, max 15.7, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes

                                  Does 15v sound correct for your power supply?

                                  @rickypilnik said in Z-Axis not homing:

                                  No I can't move the Z-axis, but x and y are fine even with the message of short to drivers from before.

                                  The short to ground message was only for driver 2, correct?

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                                  • rickypilnikundefined
                                    rickypilnik
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes 15V sounds correct and the message is
                                    " Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s) 2 "

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Alright, I think we've established that the Z driver has failed unfortunately. Please hang on while I confer with DC42 in case he has any further ideas.

                                      When and where did you purchase your Duet 3?

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                                      • rickypilnikundefined
                                        rickypilnik
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                                        On the 5th May 2020, from E3D Online, and it's a Maestro

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Ah yes, sorry, Maestro.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @rickypilnik
                                            last edited by

                                            @rickypilnik said in Z-Axis not homing:

                                            (changed all motor currents to 1875mA (max is 2.5A)

                                            I think the reason I assumed it was a Duet 3 was because of this statement on motor current.

                                            These motors may not be well suited to the Maestro as it's drivers are rated for 1.4a peak. The Duet wifi is 2.4a and the Duet3 6.3.

                                            You'd have to run the drivers at full power to get close to 60% of the rated max for the motors. This will require actively cooling the driver chips.

                                            If you send M906 in the console, what does it report back with?

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