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    • InsanityAutomationundefined
      InsanityAutomation
      last edited by

      Im trying to get the Formbot Troodon updated to 3.1.1 and running into an odd issue. Firstoff, this is a custom compatible board. Its essentially a Duet2Wifi and Duex5 in a single PCB with bigfoot format 2660 removable drivers.

      The machine works as intended on 3.0.0. Config is here :
      https://github.com/InsanityAutomation/FormbotTroodon/blob/master/sys/config.g

      3.0.1 RC11 and 3.1.1 Release both exhibit the same issue. Any motion command to any stepper gets the following response :

      M997 S1
      Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s) 0 1
      Warning: motor phase B may be disconnected reported by driver(s) 0 1

      I tried changing to a new stepper motor to be sure with no dice. Rolling back to 3.0.0 everything works as intended.

      I attempted to modify the current values from 1200 down to 1000 and up to 1300 with no change.

      Anyone have any ideas of something to try? Is there some other change between these versions im missing from the release notes?

      Thanks

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      • oliofundefined
        oliof
        last edited by

        From my own experience, this happens if you have a loose crimp on the cabling. I suggest you check crimps first, solder points second.

        <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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        • InsanityAutomationundefined
          InsanityAutomation @oliof
          last edited by

          @oliof It's worth noting if I load 3.0.0 back to it, everything works smoothly again. No physical change between when it works and then doesn't on 3.1.1.

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          • oliofundefined
            oliof
            last edited by

            Interesting. I upgraded from 3.0-RC4 to 3.1.1 just the other day and (on a Duet3) board this worked just fine. So I guess this is one for the experts and not an innocent bystander (-:

            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              So the config.g is the same, and only the firmware version is changing?

              Can you send M98 Pconfig.g in the gcode console and see what errors if any are reported?

              Can you also send M122 and report the result.

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              • InsanityAutomationundefined
                InsanityAutomation
                last edited by

                Thats correct, no changes other than bringing the firmware bin file back and forth.

                With 3.0.0 Installed :
                M98 Pconfig.g

                Error: M574: endstop type 0 is no longer supported. Use type 1 and invert the input pin instead.
                HTTP is enabled on port 80
                FTP is disabled
                TELNET is disabled
                Error: M307: Heater 3 not found
                Warning: M307: heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 542C.
                
                Error: M106: Fan number 3 not found
                Error: M106: Fan number 4 not found
                Error: M106: Fan number 5 not found
                Error: M106: Fan number 6 not found
                Error: M106: Fan number 7 not found
                Error: M106: Fan number 8 not found
                

                M122

                === Diagnostics ===
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.0 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L4MSJ-6J9FG-3S86S-982QP
                Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (10 max)
                === RTOS ===
                Static ram: 30516
                Dynamic ram: 92392 of which 60 recycled
                Exception stack ram used: 504
                Never used ram: 7600
                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,640) HEAT(blocked,1240) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,3676) IDLE(ready,156)
                Owned mutexes:
                === Platform ===
                Last reset 45:02:35 ago, cause: software
                Last software reset at 2020-05-04 22:19, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 7356 bytes (slot 1)
                Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                Error status: 0
                Free file entries: 10
                SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                MCU temperature: min 24.5, current 26.7, max 27.8
                Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 24.1, max 24.4, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/223
                Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 2: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 4: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max 0/244
                Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max 0/242
                Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max 0/234
                Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max 0/241
                Driver 9: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Date/time: 2020-06-16 09:59:35
                Cache data hit count 4294967295
                Slowest loop: 77.99ms; fastest: 0.09ms
                I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                === Move ===
                Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 167, MaxWait: 27507ms
                Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                === MainDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 11, completed moves: 11, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                === AuxDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                === Heat ===
                Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                === GCodes ===
                Segments left: 0
                Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                Movement lock held by null
                http is idle in state(s) 0
                telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                file is idle in state(s) 0
                serial is idle in state(s) 0
                aux is idle in state(s) 0
                daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                queue is idle in state(s) 0
                autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                Code queue is empty.
                === Network ===
                Slowest loop: 15.49ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
                HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                - WiFi -
                Network state is running
                WiFi module is connected to access point 
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                WiFi firmware version 1.23
                WiFi MAC address 2c:f4:32:58:8a:07
                WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 23992
                WiFi IP address 172.16.0.213
                WiFi signal strength -58dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                === Filament sensors ===
                Extruder 0 sensor: no filament
                

                And with 3.1.1

                M98 Pconfig.g
                Error: endstop type 0 is no longer supported. Use type 1 and invert the input pin instead.
                HTTP is enabled on port 80
                FTP is disabled
                TELNET is disabled
                Error: Heater 3 not found
                Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 542C
                Error: Fan number 3 not found
                Error: Fan number 4 not found
                Error: Fan number 5 not found
                Error: Fan number 6 not found
                Error: Fan number 7 not found
                Error: Fan number 8 not found
                

                M122

                === Diagnostics ===
                RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
                Board ID: 08DJM-9178L-L4MSJ-6J9FG-3S86S-982QP
                Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (12 max)
                === RTOS ===
                Static ram: 27980
                Dynamic ram: 94372 of which 100 recycled
                Exception stack ram used: 264
                Never used ram: 8356
                Tasks: NETWORK(ready,392) HEAT(blocked,1224) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1552) IDLE(ready,80)
                Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
                === Platform ===
                Last reset 00:00:57 ago, cause: software
                Last software reset at 2020-05-04 22:19, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 7356 bytes (slot 1)
                Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
                Error status: 0
                MCU temperature: min 25.9, current 26.6, max 26.9
                Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.1, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 2: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 4: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
                Driver 9: temperature-shutdown! short-to-ground standstill, SG min/max not available
                Date/time: 2020-06-16 10:02:11
                Cache data hit count 57130340
                Slowest loop: 78.89ms; fastest: 0.62ms
                I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                === Storage ===
                Free file entries: 10
                SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                SD card longest read time 3.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                === Move ===
                Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 169, MaxWait: 0ms
                Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                === MainDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
                === AuxDDARing ===
                Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
                === Heat ===
                Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                === GCodes ===
                Segments left: 0
                Movement lock held by null
                HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                File is idle in state(s) 0
                USB is idle in state(s) 0
                Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                Code queue is empty.
                === Network ===
                Slowest loop: 20.11ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                - WiFi -
                Network state is active
                WiFi module is connected to access point 
                Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                WiFi firmware version 1.23
                WiFi MAC address 2c:f4:32:58:8a:07
                WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Unknown
                WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 24160
                WiFi IP address 172.16.0.213
                WiFi signal strength -54dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                === Filament sensors ===
                Extruder 0 sensor: no filament
                === DueX ===
                Read count 1, 1.04 reads/min
                
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                • InsanityAutomationundefined
                  InsanityAutomation
                  last edited by

                  Also worth noting the 3 drivers listing error states (2,4, and 9) do not physically exist on this board.

                  Thanks

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    well they have a few errors for a RRF3 config, but nothing that I can see would cause issues...

                    M574 Z0 P"nil" ; no Z endstop switch, free up Z endstop input
                    You can remove that line to stop the M574 type 0 not supported error

                    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1 ; set PID tuned settings for heater 0
                    You can remove that line to stop the heater 3 not found error

                    M140H0 There should be a space between M140 and H0

                    ; --- Set or report heating process parameters---
                    M106 P3 I-1
                    M106 P4 I-1
                    M106 P5 I-1
                    M106 P6 I-1
                    M106 P7 I-1
                    M106 P8 I-1
                    

                    I'm not sure what their intention is for this block, but inverting the pin is done with M950 in RRF3. I'd just remove those lines. that's the fan not found errors.

                    M569 P2 R-1
                    M569 P4 R-1
                    M569 P9 R-1
                    

                    These lines should function to stop monitoring those missing drivers you mention, but they don't seem to be working in 3.1.1. I'm not sure what has changed.

                    Can you try sending them again in the console?
                    What do you get if you send M569 by itself?

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                    • InsanityAutomationundefined
                      InsanityAutomation
                      last edited by

                      Those do function to stop the flood of warnings that were present before adding them. The command goes green in the terminal after sending on DWC with no error reported. No change in M122 output.

                      If my memory is correct, the M574 command was included in the 3.0 documentation on setting up the BLTouch to release the z endstop pin. Is there another line required to do the same thing with 3.1.1 or is it unassigned by default?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @InsanityAutomation
                        last edited by

                        @InsanityAutomation said in Formbot Troodon RRF 3.1.1 Update:

                        is it unassigned by default?

                        Exactly. In order to be more generic there are no more assumed assignments. Instead you use M950 to define the pins you are using. In your case for the BLTouch that would be M950 S0 C"duex.pwm5"

                        Sorry for M569 you'll need to specify the driver number as well so try sending M569 P2

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                        • InsanityAutomationundefined
                          InsanityAutomation
                          last edited by

                          M569 P2
                          Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 127

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                          • InsanityAutomationundefined
                            InsanityAutomation
                            last edited by

                            Seems akismet wants to flag it as spam for some reason... lol Im adding a bit more content above it to try and get rid of that warning....

                            M569 P0
                            Drive 0 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P1
                            Drive 1 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P2
                            Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
                            
                            M569 P3
                            Drive 3 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P4
                            Drive 4 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
                            
                            M569 P5
                            Drive 5 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P6
                            Drive 6 runs in reverse, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P7
                            Drive 7 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P8
                            Drive 8 runs in reverse, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 0
                            
                            M569 P9
                            Drive 9 runs forwards, active low enable, step timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x101b4, toff 4, tblank 2, hstart/hend/hdec 3/3/0, pos 63
                            
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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              so are you still getting the errors when trying to move the axis after you've sent:

                              M569 P2 R-1
                              M569 P4 R-1
                              M569 P9 R-1
                              

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                              • InsanityAutomationundefined
                                InsanityAutomation
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux said in Formbot Troodon RRF 3.1.1 Update:

                                M569 P4 R-1

                                Yup, no change in function or output sending those manually.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Alright. I'm not sure what changed between 3.0 and 3.1.1 that would explain this. You'll have to hold tight until @dc42 has a chance to take a look. It is likely related in some way to the odd combo board being used.

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                                  • InsanityAutomationundefined
                                    InsanityAutomation
                                    last edited by

                                    Id assume so as well. When I showed Tony the board at ERRF last year he was glad to see something not a direct clone for a change but here is the risk of it not being a direct clone lol

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes it's definitely an interesting beast. Do you have any other info on it? I wasn't able to get much from googling.

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                                      • InsanityAutomationundefined
                                        InsanityAutomation
                                        last edited by

                                        I can grab some photos of it when I get home (Remote VPN for last testing bits!) Personally I really like the removable drivers despite the thermal constraints as they are still one of the most failure prone components on these boards. People who (ab)use machines like I do tend to go through a few of em....

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                                        • InsanityAutomationundefined
                                          InsanityAutomation
                                          last edited by

                                          Heres a few photos : https://photos.app.goo.gl/N7Ea1rB1NPq9jCTEA

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                                          • InsanityAutomationundefined
                                            InsanityAutomation
                                            last edited by

                                            Figured I'd bump this and see if anyone had any other idea before i dig into source myself.

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