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    • littlehobbyshopundefined
      littlehobbyshop @dc42
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      @dc42 Thanks for the response. I'll have to be cautious with absolute and incremental movements in that case. Without a direction parameter there are always 2 ways to get to a position.

      With absolute positioning, if for example towards the end of carving a thread around a dowel with 10 turns, you would end up getting to 3600 degrees, returning to 0 from that position would mean unnecessarily 'unwinding' the axis. A modulus function in meta commands would easily allow you to find the nearest 0 degree point again I suppose. It's just going to be case of wrapping my head round something new.

      Having had a very short play with machining outputs from fusion I found that using the Fanuc post processor was outputting I and J parameters so I assumed they were similar to G2/3 but their was no G parameter at all and other post processors were completely different. Still havent gone very in depth with it yet. Lots to investigate and experiment with.

      BLV MGN Cube w/Hemera, K8200, Sunlu S8

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @littlehobbyshop
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        @littlehobbyshop said in Using a 4th (Rotary) Axis:

        I'll have to be cautious with absolute and incremental movements in that case. Without a direction parameter there are always 2 ways to get to a position.

        This is true. The firmware has the means to handle rotary axes differently (it's used on polar and some SCARA machines), but currently there is no command to declare that an axis is rotary.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        • 3DPMicroundefined
          3DPMicro @littlehobbyshop
          last edited by 3DPMicro

          @littlehobbyshop please pass along your experience going forward. I occasionally add a 4th axis (currently just for indexing) to my Duet controlled micro mill. https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/11581/duet-controlled-micro-mill My CAM outputs 4th axis though I have yet to dedicate the time to explore simultaneous work. My current focus is an ATC for the machine but plan to start working again on the the "A" axis soon after that is complete

          Duet controlled Jet Lathe, scratch built micro mill and 3d printer. 1992 Haas VF2 VMC retrofit

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          • ScaraManundefined
            ScaraMan @dc42
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            @dc42 Hi David, I am trying to get in contact with you concerning SCARA.
            I have posted a link on the forum , can you please have a look at it, I need your opinion.
            Thank you

            here is the link
            https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/14114/scara-robot-want-to-know-if-duet-wifi-is-the-right-choice?_=1580465871679

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            • Danalundefined
              Danal
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              I know you want an answer from dave... but... as @Phaedrux said in the other tread, Duet WiFi will definitely drive the scara geometry you show.

              Here is how to configure it:

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareSCARAPrinter

              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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              • tntjetundefined
                tntjet
                last edited by tntjet

                I’m kinda at a loss it may be old age or ignorance , how would one define the U axis (Rotary) to degrees instead of mm on a Cartesian CNC for M92 201 203 etc . Preferably to be a free axis with no limit switch .

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User @tntjet
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                  @tntjet said in Using a 4th (Rotary) Axis:

                  , how would one define the U axis (Rotary) to degrees instead of mm on a

                  you sort of don't; i.e. the axis doesn't actually know about units - so just set the steps/mm to whatever steps you need to turn to move 1 degree instead of 1mm.

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                  • tntjetundefined
                    tntjet
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                    Ok I see, that’s what I was missing , my axis has 600 steps per 360. 1.6666 per degree ?

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User @tntjet
                      last edited by

                      @tntjet yes, if you have taken the microstepping into account, if not make sure to do that as well.

                      E.g. if its 600 full steps and you use 16x microstepping (with or without interpolation to 265) its 600 x 16 / 360 = 26.6666.

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                      • tntjetundefined
                        tntjet
                        last edited by

                        Thank you so much @ bearer , you have made my evening.

                        is it possible to make this axis continuous in the M208?

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User @tntjet
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                          @tntjet said in Using a 4th (Rotary) Axis:

                          is it possible to make this axis continuous in the M208?

                          ref https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16788/u-axis-without-limit/12 (i.e. not yet faik)

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                          • tntjetundefined
                            tntjet
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                            Legendary ! Thanks again.

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