Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Thermistor showing 2000

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Solved
    Duet Hardware and wiring
    3
    15
    481
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
      cdl1701yahoo.com
      last edited by cdl1701yahoo.com

      Need help diagnosing a thermistor problem I am having. I recently built a new printer using an existing Duet Wifi board that I had on hand and paired it with a new Duex5 board. I did all of the movement tests and all is working fine so I moved on to the hotend. Once I got my hotend installed I did a test to heat it up to 100c to make sure the fans were working but once it got heated up I got a heater fault and now the temperature reads 2000 which is usually when it is not detecting a thermistor. I tried a different thermistor in case I had a bad one with the same results so I moved that hotend over to my other printer and all reads fine.

      Could this mean that this is a board issue?
      If so, is there a way to check to verify there is an issue with my board?

      682d00c7-e10d-4d00-92c9-a962413221b5-image.png

      ;Heaters*******************************************************************
      M305 P0 S"BED" T100000 B4138 C0 ; Set thermistor
      M143 H0 S110 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 225C

      M305 P1 R4700 T100000 B4388 ; Set thermistor
      M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
      M307 H1 A452.5 C154.2 D6.2 V24.1 ; Set PID parameters for heater 1

      M305 P2 R4700 T100000 B4388 ; Set thermistor
      M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 300C
      M307 H2 A527.5 C194.1 D8.9 V24.1 ; Set PID parameters for heater 2

      M305 P3 R4700 T100000 B4388 ; Set thermistor
      M143 H3 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 3 to 300C
      ;M307 H3 A527.5 C194.1 D8.9 V24.1 ; Set PID parameters for heater 3

      ;Tools*******************************************************************
      M563 P0 D0 H1 F4 ; Define tool 0
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      M563 P1 D1 H2 F6 ; Define tool 1
      G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      M563 P2 D2 H3 F8 ; Define tool 1
      G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ;Fans*******************************************************************
      ;M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; UNUSED
      M106 C"T0 FAN" P3 S1 I0 F500 H1 T70 ; T0 HE
      M106 C"T0 LAY FAN" P4 S0 ; T0 PCF
      M106 C"T1 FAN" P5 S1 I0 F500 H2 T70 ; T1 HE
      M106 C"T1 LAY FAN" P6 S0 ; T1 PCF
      M106 C"T2 FAN" P7 S1 I0 F500 H2 T70 ; T2 HE
      M106 C"T2 LAY FAN" P8 S0 ; T2 PCF

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Is it showing 2000 all the time, or only after you try heating it?
        Just to clarify, you've tested another working thermistor on the duet and it does the same thing? And/or you've tried the thermistor on another printer and it works fine?

        Can you see any visible damage on the board itself?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
          cdl1701yahoo.com
          last edited by cdl1701yahoo.com

          Yeah, it was showing a temperature and I was watching it rise from around 24 up to the 100 mark when it then went to heater fault. I should have looked in the DWC to see what the error was for but I was using the LCD panel on the printer at the time and did not think to check that before I reset the printer. After that it shows 2000 all the time.

          I have tried two different thermistors on that board with the same results and tried those same thermistors on my other printer and they work fine.

          Not seeing any apparent visible damage on the board but not sure where I should be looking.
          I was thinking I could try using the thermistor inputs on the Duex5 but have not figured out how to set the tool/heater to use a different thermistor input.

          Is there some kind of test I can do on the board using a multi-meter?

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
            cdl1701yahoo.com
            last edited by

            Not sure if this is helpful or not but here are some pictures of measuring the resistance on both boards, one that works and the one that doesn't

            Working board:
            a7c7b0a6-a587-4c10-966c-ab2377f130c4-image.png

            Not working board:
            80cabac8-809e-4198-97f0-bb1e7c246a4b-image.png

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
              cdl1701yahoo.com
              last edited by

              Small update
              I decided to erase the firmware on this board and get everything to exactly the same on this board as my other one.

              07b581b8-2c1f-4c10-a313-898abc50495a-image.png

              5ec94e0d-27f8-4c2e-92cf-a02856ad88ee-image.png

              Still getting this. Heater 1 and 3 are the only ones with thermistors plugged into them at the moment but still shows 2000. Heater 3 is coming from the Duex5 which is a brand new board.

              31292d7a-a47e-43c3-a352-6e4eeaa07ff4-image.png

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • A Former User?
                A Former User
                last edited by

                Looks like one of the older revisions, can you tell which one?

                And measure the resistance from the left thermistor pin to ground (in the same orientation as in your previous photos)

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                  cdl1701yahoo.com
                  last edited by cdl1701yahoo.com

                  Like this? Sorry for the slightly blurry picture hard to hold the multi-meter and probes with one hand and take a picture with the other. The red probe is clipped to the left pin on T0 and the black probe is on the ground of the power in block.
                  Board version is 1.01

                  dd87cdcd-3c8a-4150-a168-ec638511ab78-image.png

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    Don't need the picture, the value is enough, 10.4 ohms? no kilo or other prefixes?

                    And the revision of the board? Should be part of the silkscreen near by the red probe. says something like pcb revision 1.nn(x)?

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                      cdl1701yahoo.com
                      last edited by

                      Oh sorry didn't notice that it cut the bottom of the meter off showing the setting. It was 10.4 kohm
                      Board version is 1.01

                      A Former User? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User @cdl1701yahoo.com
                        last edited by

                        @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Thermistor showing 2000:

                        It was 10.4 kohm

                        oh, thats your problem i think, it should be close to 0.

                        ref https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connector_and_spare_part_numbers#Section_VSSA_fuse

                        cdl1701yahoo.comundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                        • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                          cdl1701yahoo.com @A Former User
                          last edited by

                          @bearer Oh you know what.. you just sparked a memory from about 3 years ago. I had to replace the F1 fuse on this board before because of this issue. I checked it with my multi-meter and sure enough it is blown. I bought 5 of those last time... now I wonder where I put those.. haha

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by

                            tape the bag to board when you find them?

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                              cdl1701yahoo.com
                              last edited by

                              Holy crap I found them.. And my wife thinks I keep too much junk from my 3D printer builds.. haha

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                                cdl1701yahoo.com
                                last edited by

                                Success!!

                                aa259f6d-5ed6-4d5d-b6ee-638ba83540b0-image.png

                                No heaters installed for Heater 2 or Bed yet so those are good.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  Awesome!

                                  (btw if your wife really thought you kept too much junk I don't think you would have found them;)

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • First post
                                    Last post
                                  Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA