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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      And what is the model? Maybe we can check the specs again.

      Did you try the motor on a different driver to eliminate the Z driver? You're using both motors on the Z driver, correct?

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      • MartinNYHCundefined
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        https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-bipolar-0-9deg-46ncm-65-1oz-in-2a-2-8v-42x42x48mm-4-wires-full-d-cut-shaft.html?search=17HM19-2004S1

        Nope, didn't try a different driver. Just connected a Creality 42-34 and it works.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          You miss my point. I'm wondering how the motors will sound when wired to a seperate driver rather than the Z driver which is wired in series internally.

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          • MartinNYHCundefined
            MartinNYHC
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            Ahhh...ok, sorry 😉 Will try it now.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Well those motors are identical to those I use in my corexy and they do not sound like that at all. Something is amiss.

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              • MartinNYHCundefined
                MartinNYHC
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                Same behaviour on X/Y drivers.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by Phaedrux

                  Thanks for testing.

                  At this point I'm not sure what to make of those motors. They sound awful to be sure. I would return them and get something else. Perhaps they aren't as advertised?

                  17HM19-2004S1 is what you listed above for the X and Y axis. For Z you had listed 17HS13-0404S1, which are you using for Z?

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                  • MartinNYHCundefined
                    MartinNYHC
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                    For Z it's

                    https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-bipolar-1-8deg-26ncm-36-8oz-in-0-4a-12v-42x42x34mm-4-wires.html?search= 17HS13-0404S1

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
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                      Ah, those are quite a bit different than what you had linked above.

                      https://www.amazon.de/Stepperonline-Stepper-Bipolar-Degrees-Printers/dp/B07Z1D1ZJY/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=17HM19-2004S1&qid=1593035734&sr=8-1

                      Which I see now is actually the X Y motors, not your Z motor.

                      Unfortunately the Z motors you've got are not a great choice. They are very high inductance. They may still be usable, but you will need to reduce your max speed for z and they may still be loud. It also looks like you've got them set to use 600ma current when they are max of 400ma.

                      Try M203 Z300 and M906 Z300

                      These would be a much better choice: https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-stepper-motor/nema-17-bipolar-1-8deg-22ncm-31oz-in-1-33a-2-8v-42x42x34mm-4-wires.html?mfp=148-bipolar-unipolar[Bipolar]%2C183-body-length-mm[34]%2C71-single-shaft-dual-shaft[Single Shaft]%2C21-shaft-type[D-Cut]

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                      • MartinNYHCundefined
                        MartinNYHC
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                        OMG, what have I ordered? I was quite sure that I ordered the one you suggested. Thank you very much vor investigating! Will give them back and get the other ones. Will keep you updated.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          I'd still be curious if M203 Z300 and M906 Z300 improved them at al. Probably still be loud though.

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                          • MartinNYHCundefined
                            MartinNYHC
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                            Yes, still too loud. Already initiated a replacement.

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                            • MartinNYHCundefined
                              MartinNYHC
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                              Another (dummy) question: when replacing the XY motors, do I have to adapt the steps? Since i upgraded the motors my printer is only moving half the way it should.

                              I was under the impression that nothing changes when using the old pulleys and belts.

                              Oh man....everything's not so easy 😉

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User @MartinNYHC
                                last edited by A Former User

                                @MartinNYHC said in CR-10S Pro stepper recommendation:

                                do I have to adapt the steps?

                                only if you managed to get motors with different degrees/step. I.e. both 0.9 and 1.8 are relatively common as well as other values exist.

                                edit: but do carefully check the wiring and the direction they turn in once connected. standarized colour coding is not given with these things.

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                                • MartinNYHCundefined
                                  MartinNYHC
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                                  I just came ot my mind: I know have 0.9 steppers, the old one were 1.8. Doubled the steps and everything is good again 🙂

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