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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman
      last edited by

      I now have a new problem which is frying my brain somewhat. I have this macro to set the tool temps to zero at the end of a print:

      while iterations < #tools
      if tools[iterations] != null
      echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
      G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature

      It is correctly indented - but this forum removes the indents when I do a copy and paste.

      This macro works like a charm if I simply run it. But when I put inside my "Post-Print" macro I get a bunch of errors - "Error G10: 'iterations' used when not inside a loop". And of course the temperatures don't get changed. But I can run that macro "stand alone", immediately afterwards and it'll work just fine.

      Here is my Post-Print Macro

      ;End print gcode

      G10 ; retract
      G91 ; set relative
      G1 Z5 F240 ; move bed down 5mm
      G90 ; back to absolute
      G1 X165 Y300 F9000 ; move to rear

      M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps0.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 0

      M140 S0 ; turn off bed
      M106 S0 ; turn off part fan

      M291 P"Print finished" R"Post-Print Macro" S1 T10

      What is really frying my brain is that I do something very similar in a Pre-Print macro which calls another almost identical macro to set the tool temps to 210, and that works as expected.

      For the sake of completeness, here is a "Pre-Print" macro which works as expected

      ; Pre-print gcode 45deg bed, 210 hot end

      M291 P"Heating bed to 40 degC " R"Pre-Print PLA" S1 T10

      M190 S40; start heating bed and wait for it to get to 40

      M291 P"Homing all axes" R"Pre-Print PLA" S1 T10

      M140 S45; Now start to heat bed to 45 but don't wait
      M98 P"0:/macros/PrePrintHome.g" ; home all axes (at high temp)

      M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps210.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 210

      G1 X80 Y363 F9000 ; move to rear
      M83;

      M291 P"Waiting for heaters to reach active temperatures" R"Pre-Print Macro" S1 T10

      M116 ; wait for all temps including hot end

      M291 P"Wiping nozzle" R"Pre-Print PLA" S1 T5
      M98 P"0:/macros/Nozzle wipe"

      So, I can't fathom why calling a macro to set the tool temps works from within a "pre-print" macro and also "stand alone" but calling it from within my post-print macro brings up errors.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        @deckingman said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

        while iterations < #tools
        if tools[iterations] != null
        echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
        G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature

        If you use code escapes (three back-quote characters at the start and end of the block) then it will preserve the indentation:

        while iterations < #tools
          if tools[iterations] != null
          echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
          G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
        

        Please either post the contents of the non-working macro in this way, or attach it as a file

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        • arhiundefined
          arhi @deckingman
          last edited by

          @deckingman said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

          forum removes the indents

          you can do it like this:

          while iterations < #tools
            if tools[iterations] != null
              echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
            G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
          

          or withot "type of the code" like this

          while iterations < #tools
            if tools[iterations] != null
              echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
            G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
          

          and if you want to quote it in-line you do it like this

          2c0ab180-fb7f-40e1-bdc3-807fddad2ed5-image.png

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          • arhiundefined
            arhi
            last edited by

            looking at the code it should work as expected. better upload files directly as this "space formatting" can be the source of the problem

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman
              last edited by

              OK. Thanks all for the info about preserving indentations.

              By a process of elimination I have isolated what causes the error. It is the preceding Z move. That is is to say, if I comment out the two lines below so I have ..........

              G10 ; retract
              ;G91 ; set relative
              ;G1 Z5 F240 ; move bed down 5mm
              G90 ; back to absolute
              G1 X165 Y300 F9000 ; move to rear

              M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps0.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 0

              ..............Then I get no errors and the macro runs just fine.

              Or if I just re-arrange things so that the macro runs before the Z move, it works fine too. i.e. I now have.................

              ;End print gcode

              G10 ; retract

              M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps0.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 0

              G91 ; set relative
              G1 Z5 F240 ; move bed down 5mm
              G90 ; back to absolute
              G1 X165 Y300 F9000 ; move to rear

              M140 S0 ; turn off bed
              M106 S0 ; turn off part fan

              M291 P"Print finished" R"Post-Print Macro" S1 T10

              ........and this work fine. So it's either the preceding G91 switching to relative, or the G1 Z5 that breaks the conditional macro.

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User @arhi
                last edited by A Former User

                @arhi said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

                and if you want to quote it in-line you do it like this

                you can even escape things with \ like `quote it in-line` becomes quote it in-line 🤓 and then you can go all inception to show \`quote it in-line\` and then you can... 😇

                edit: you can use double (as in two) quotes to avoid escaping single quotes (and three to escape two and so on..)
                ``single `quote` `` becomes single `quote`

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                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman
                  last edited by

                  I spoke too soon. I just ran a print with the end gcode macro as per my last post above and received the errors "Error G10: 'iterations' used when not inside a loop". I ran that same post-print macro again, and it worked without errors on that second try.

                  So it's seemingly random. Some times it runs without error, other times I get those errors.

                  Here is the macro yet again:

                  while iterations < #tools
                    if tools[iterations] != null
                      echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
                      G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
                  

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    Can you confirm that you are running firmware 3.1.1 on the main board?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

                      Can you confirm that you are running firmware 3.1.1 on the main board?

                      Yup

                      M122
                      === Diagnostics ===
                      RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 (standalone mode)
                      
                      M122 B1
                      Diagnostics for board 1:
                      Board EXP3HC firmware 3.1.0 (2020-05-15b1)
                      

                      Don't know if it makes any difference but all the extruders are connected to expansion boards 1 and 2 and the hot end heater and thermistor are on expansion board 1.

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman
                        last edited by

                        Does nobody have any idea why that macro sometimes works and at other times throws up errors - "iterations used when not inside a loop". Interestingly, the other very similar macros which set the tool temperatures to high values and which are used at the start of a print always work. It's just this one which sets the temperature to zero at the end of a print.

                        Because it is erratic and unpredictable, I've had to go back to my old way of doing things and use a number of macros, each with a fixed but different number of G10 Pnn S0 R0 commands, rather than use the while loop. Otherwise, more often than not, the tools will all remain at print temperature when a print finishes which is highly undesirable.

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • OwenDundefined
                          OwenD @deckingman
                          last edited by OwenD

                          @deckingman
                          If it works sometimes and not others I suspect an unhandled exception. I.e. the firmware isn't getting what it expected.
                          It may help in diagnosing if you add a delay after the echo and add an "else" section to notify when a null value is being returned by your if statement (also with an echo and delay)
                          I'd also do a "finished" section for good measure.

                          I suspect if you don't have sequential numbering on the tools something may be going awry that you aren't seeing.

                          Those changes should help determine which "iteration" is giving the grief

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman @OwenD
                            last edited by deckingman

                            @OwenD Thanks -

                            I don't know if it helps but actually I get one error for every tool that exists. The tools are always sequentially numbered, so for example if I have 11 tools numbered from 0 to 10, then I get 11 error messages.

                            And as I said, running an almost identical macro at the start of a print to set the tool temperatures to (say) 210, always works. But I'll add the delays and an else section and see what happens.

                            Ian
                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Ian, does this issue only occur when you call that macro from within end.g, or can you reproduce it in any other way?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • deckingmanundefined
                                deckingman @dc42
                                last edited by deckingman

                                @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

                                Ian, does this issue only occur when you call that macro from within end.g, or can you reproduce it in any other way?

                                Unfortunately, it isn't as clear cut as that. I've just spent the last couple of hours trying to provoke it to misbehave. It seems the only time it will misbehave is at the end of a print. But running the post print macro on it's own (which in turn calls the tool temps macro), does not make it misbehave.

                                To recap, the macro which provokes errors (at the end of a print) is this:

                                  if tools[iterations] != null
                                    echo "Setting temp for tool T", iterations
                                    G10 P{iterations} S0 R0 ; - set it's active and standby temperature
                                

                                It is called from within this macro which is called "PostPrint.g":

                                
                                G10 ; retract
                                G91 ; set relative
                                G1 Z5 F240 ; move bed down 5mm
                                G90 ; back to absolute
                                G1 X165 Y300 F9000 ; move to rear
                                
                                M98 P"0:/macros/ToolTemps/ToolTemps0.g" ; set the tool temperatures to 0
                                
                                M140 S0 ; turn off bed
                                M106 S0 ; turn off part fan
                                
                                M291 P"Print finished" R"Post-Print Macro" S1 T10
                                

                                I can run that "PostPrint" macro any time and it runs without errors. Yet when it is called from the end of a print, I get the "iterations used when not inside a loop" errors (11 of them - 1 for each tool)

                                When I get the errors, I can send M98 P"PostPrint.g" and it will run without errors.

                                This is the end of a gcode file that I've just finished

                                G1 X107.377 Y142.526 E0.05564
                                G10 ; retract
                                M107
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ;end
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ; Filament-specific end gcode 
                                ;END gcode for filament
                                ;end
                                M98 P"0:/macros/PostPrint.g"
                                ; filament used = 17028.6mm (41.0cm3)
                                ; total filament cost = 0.0
                                .........lots more comments after this
                                

                                Could those filament specific comments that the slicer puts in before the M98 macro call screw things up?

                                I've tried running the last gcode commands in order - i.e. G10 followed by M107 followed by the M98 P... but that does not provoke the errors.

                                Weird or what?

                                Ian
                                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by

                                  can you upload a sample print file along with the config? stuck in the countryside for a rainy weekend, never know, might find the time to poke it

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                                  • deckingmanundefined
                                    deckingman @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @bearer Thanks. I've sent you a chat message with shareable link to a folder that I have created on my Google Drive, which contains what I think are all the relevant files.

                                    Ian
                                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman
                                      last edited by

                                      OK. So by a process of elimination, I have found the reason (but not the cause) for the errors and a work around. I created a gcode file with simply the start part and the end part of a print file which provokes the problem. That is to say, with all the G1 moves removed. Running that did provoke the problem. Then I progressively removed various commands until I ended with simply this:

                                      M98 P"0:/macros/PrePrintPETG.g"
                                      
                                      ;G21 ; set units to millimeters
                                      ;G90 ; use absolute coordinates
                                      ;M83 ; use relative distances for e
                                      M107
                                      
                                      M98 P"0:/macros/PostPrint.g"
                                      

                                      ..........and that will provoke the problem when run as a print file. Yet running those commands "stand alone" via the console does not provoke the problem - it has to be done as a print from the sd card.

                                      The work around is to put M400 before that second "post print" macro (or indeed at the start of that macro before the call to the second "tool temps" macro).

                                      If that's how it has to be, that's fine by me, but I suggest it be documented somewhere so as to help others in the future.

                                      HTH

                                      Ian
                                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks, that will make it easier for me to track down.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • deckingmanundefined
                                          deckingman @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 said in Conditional gcode help required - New Problem:

                                          Thanks, that will make it easier for me to track down.

                                          No worries. I have those macros in a folder on my google drive so I can send you a shareable link if you want to replicate things exactly.

                                          Ian
                                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks, I've reproduced the fault using those files, and I'm looking into it.

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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