Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Saftey Door Switches for BIG printers

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Unsolved
    General Discussion
    6
    26
    1.4k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • A Former User?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      M582 would should run the trigger again if the state is still triggered.

      But I suspect the suggestion was to use the object model, don't have the specific node to use, but if noone comes up with it I'll have some time to poke it tomorrow

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • A Former User?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        or we could go down the "teach a man to fish" road?

        M409 F"v" K"sensors"
        and
        https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/14878/conditional-gcode-expressions?_=1593546611563

        where you find it under sensors will depend on how the sensor is defined, endstop or gpIn maybe?

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @CR3D
          last edited by

          @CR3D said in Saftey Door Switches for BIG printers:

          @dc42 But is there a Object Model for the inputs at itself?

          Yes, in RRF 3.1 they can be found in sensors.gpIn[x] where x is the GpIn number you assigned in M950 (the J parameter).

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

          FS-TOOLSundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • CR3Dundefined
            CR3D
            last edited by

            Solved!

            I created the switches like following in the config.g:

            ; Custom Safety Settings 
            
            ; Open Door Switch
            
            M950 J0 C"!1.io0.in" 
            M950 J1 C"!1.io1.in"
            M950 J2 C"!1.io2.in"
            
            ; Emergency Stop
            M950 J3 C"!1.io3.in"
            

            And at the homeall.g I used the conditional commands:

            ; homeall.g
            ; called to home all axes
            
            if sensors.gpIn[0].value==1 & sensors.gpIn[1].value==1 & sensors.gpIn[2].value==1 & sensors.gpIn[3].value==1  ;If the Doors are closed and the emergency stop is released -> Homing
            
            
            	M106 P0 S0		; Part cooling Fan off 
            	G91                    ; relative positioning
            
            	G1 H2 Z10 F6000         ; lift Z relative to current position
            	G1 H1 X-650 Y550 U650 F5000 ; first pass XYU
            	G1 H2 X5 Y-5 U-5 F6000     ; go back a few mm
            	G1 H1 X-20 Y20 U20 F360  ; second pass XY
            
            
            	G90                   ; absolute positioning
            	G1 X270 Y170 U460 F20000    ; first bed probe point -> move X to the middle of the Bed, U outside and home Z
            
            	G30
            

            Now if the doors are open or the emergency stop is active the printer will not move πŸ˜‰

            Thank you for your help!

            Regards Christian (CR-3D)

            Christian from CR-3D
            Homepage:
            www.cr-3d.de

            Facebook:
            https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

            Our Discord Server
            https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

            Thingiverse Profile:
            https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • A Former User?
              A Former User
              last edited by

              are you still having a trigger to react to the doors being opend mid-print, or is that wired together with the e-stop?

              CR3Dundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • CR3Dundefined
                CR3D @A Former User
                last edited by

                @bearer

                In RRF2.05 I made this with M581 to call Trigger 0:

                I planned like this:

                ; Open Door Switch
                
                M950 J0 C"!1.io0.in" 
                M950 J1 C"!1.io1.in"
                M950 J2 C"!1.io2.in"
                
                M581 P"!1.io0.in" T0 C0
                M581 P"!1.io1.in" T0 C0
                M581 P"!1.io2.in" T0 C0
                
                
                ; Emergency Stop
                
                M950 J3 C"!1.io3.in"
                M581 P"!1.io3.in" T0 C0
                

                Christian from CR-3D
                Homepage:
                www.cr-3d.de

                Facebook:
                https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                Our Discord Server
                https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                Thingiverse Profile:
                https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by

                  gotcha, was wondering if you went with the slow down option and if so how you approached it - and if the time delay between the trigger and the speed reduction was acceptable with feed rate override f.ex.

                  CR3Dundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • CR3Dundefined
                    CR3D @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @bearer

                    before I have not found a way to listen to the protected ...

                    how do I then implement it?

                    Right now I'm opposing to stop everything. The reduction of the protected would be the best solution!

                    Christian from CR-3D
                    Homepage:
                    www.cr-3d.de

                    Facebook:
                    https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                    Our Discord Server
                    https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                    Thingiverse Profile:
                    https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      I'm not sure how you'd go about it but I supect you'd set a M581 trigger for one flank to say trigger1.g that include

                      ;trigger1.g - called when doors open
                      M220 S20 
                      ;cancel T1 
                      M581 P"nil" T1 C0
                      ;and arm T2
                      M581 P"1.io0.in" T2 C0
                      M581 P"1.io1.in" T2 C0
                      M581 P"1.io2.in" T2 C0
                      

                      and in trigger2.g you set it back to 100 and change the trigger back to the original

                      ;trigger2.g - called when doors close
                      M220 S100 
                      ;cancel T2 
                      M581 P"nil" T2 C0
                      ;and arm T1
                      M581 P"!1.io0.in" T1 C0
                      M581 P"!1.io1.in" T1 C0
                      M581 P"!1.io2.in" T1 C0
                      

                      or something to that effect that causes the trigger to change function so it can respond differently to opening and closing.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M220_Set_speed_factor_override_percentage

                      I suppose you could refactor it to use only trigger1.g and use conditional logic to check if the sensors.GpIn[n] is high or low as well.

                      CR3Dundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • CR3Dundefined
                        CR3D @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @bearer

                        Ok this sounds good! πŸ™‚ Thank you

                        But this will work for a running Print or always?
                        For example if the printer is homed, someone opens the door and moves the axes manually. Will this also be slowed down?

                        Christian from CR-3D
                        Homepage:
                        www.cr-3d.de

                        Facebook:
                        https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                        Our Discord Server
                        https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                        Thingiverse Profile:
                        https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          hmm, docs doesn't specify so I'd presume its valid for all moves, but it'll probably be some amount of time between the switch triggering and command getting applied to the moves in the queue.

                          if you test it and find M220 to not do the trick, you could also look into changing the actual speed limit with M203.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • CR3Dundefined
                            CR3D
                            last edited by CR3D

                            Hi all...

                            I tested the example from @bearer and it works for the first step...

                            There are still a few small things:

                            1). I get an error message when I call trigger2.g and trigger3.g! Shown here in the picture

                            90b109fe-a588-4bc5-a54e-86937eb6c277-image.png

                            Here the code:

                            ; trigger2.g
                            ;called wenn door was closed and gets opend
                            
                            M220 S20 
                            ;cancel T2 
                            M581 P"nil" T2 
                            ;and arm T3
                            M581 P1 S0 T3 R0
                            M581 P2 S0 T3 R0
                            M581 P3 S0 T3 R0
                            
                            ;trigger3.g - called when doors close
                            
                            M220 S100 
                            ;cancel T3 
                            M581 P"nil" T3 
                            ;and arm T1
                            M581 P1 S1 T2 R0
                            M581 P2 S1 T2 R0
                            M581 P3 S1 T2 R0
                            

                            it seems to have something to do with the "nile". Why does this error appear?

                            as I said but it currently works when I open the door the speed decreases and when I close the door it increases again

                            2). can you improve the response time? That he does this immediately and not only when the buffer is empty? similar to the emergency stop?

                            Thank you! πŸ™‚

                            Christian from CR-3D
                            Homepage:
                            www.cr-3d.de

                            Facebook:
                            https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                            Our Discord Server
                            https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                            Thingiverse Profile:
                            https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                            A Former User? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User @CR3D
                              last edited by

                              @CR3D said in Saftey Door Switches for BIG printers:

                              can you improve the response time? That he does this immediately and not only when the buffer is empty?

                              not sure if M25 (pause) is faster with respect to response time? i.e. pause, change speed and resume, but it might be subject to the same latency and/or not affect the moves already planned.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • CR3Dundefined
                                CR3D
                                last edited by

                                @bearer

                                No I meant if you can speed up the response time of command M581 a little?

                                Otherwise I am very happy with the function now!

                                Any ideas about the error message with the ""?

                                Christian from CR-3D
                                Homepage:
                                www.cr-3d.de

                                Facebook:
                                https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                                Our Discord Server
                                https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                                Thingiverse Profile:
                                https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  The error message is misleading; however if you read https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M581_RepRapFirmware_3_01RC2_and_later you will see that the line

                                  M581 P"nil" T3

                                  is not valid in RRF 3.01RC2 and later. If you want to delete trigger 3, use:

                                  M581 T3 P-1

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    whops, i'm clearly outdated.

                                    anyways i don't think the delay is in the trigger and M581, its likely M220 waiting for moves already planned to finish before the new speed is applied?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • CR3Dundefined
                                      CR3D
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 Thank you!

                                      @bearer Yes I think this too! πŸ™‚

                                      Christian from CR-3D
                                      Homepage:
                                      www.cr-3d.de

                                      Facebook:
                                      https://www.facebook.com/cr3d.official

                                      Our Discord Server
                                      https://discord.gg/SxRaPNuRdA

                                      Thingiverse Profile:
                                      https://www.thingiverse.com/cr-3d_official/about

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • FS-TOOLSundefined
                                        FS-TOOLS @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 Hello everyone, I'm experiencing the same issue as CR3D. My setup consists of a Duet3 6XD mainboard and two 3HC boards, using the following firmware (RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6XD 3.4.5). The I0 pins are on the second 3HC board (adress 2) I've made the same settings in the config.g as described here. In the homeall.g, I've implemented the same meta command, but without success. I'm getting undefined errors. Could this be due to the higher firmware version? If so, how should I integrate this? ```
                                        config.g
                                        ccf0f9be-c4d4-417a-aa95-5509e6837035-image.png
                                        homeall.g

                                        94dbe692-b35b-484f-ac76-ca0b80eb6e30-image.png

                                        Best regards

                                        Fabian
                                        .

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • FS-TOOLSundefined FS-TOOLS referenced this topic
                                        • First post
                                          Last post
                                        Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA