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    Duet 3 warranty process - Error: Short-to-ground on drivers 0

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    • kdsands88undefined
      kdsands88
      last edited by

      Note: the stepper motor will rotate.

      Below is the screen shot showing the error - Error: Short-to-ground on drivers 0

      Duet 3 error.PNG

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by

        So the motor rotates fine, just reports the short to ground on driver 0?

        Can you try the motor on a different driver?

        www.duet3d.com

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        • Kiwi3Dundefined
          Kiwi3D @T3P3Tony
          last edited by Kiwi3D

          @T3P3Tony

          My experience with this issue ALWAY ends up with a terminal connection issue. I'd suggest making sure all 4 pins are crimped correct and fir inside the MOLEX housing

          Or.....an issue with the a1 a2 - b1 b2 pairs - I had this with a recent batch of motors that were wired wrong

          I had to wire red-green / blue-black

          Hope these ideas help

          Cheers

          Ray

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            Which version Duet 3 main board is it? On v1.0 and v1.1 boards, a missing, misplaced or badly soldered diode could cause a spurious S2G error. Can you post a hi-res photo of the area of the Duet around that driver?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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            • kdsands88undefined
              kdsands88
              last edited by

              Question: So the motor rotates fine, just reports the short to ground on driver 0?
              Answer: Correct. The motor rotates fine, just reports the short to ground on driver 0.

              Question: Can you try the motor on a different driver? (And, making sure all 4 pins are crimped correct and fir inside the MOLEX housing.)
              Answer: The motor is a test motor I used to root cause the issues with the other drivers. So yes, the motor works on all other drivers with no issue.

              Question: Which version Duet 3 main board is it?
              Answer:
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.1.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
              Board ID: 08DJM-956L2-G43S8-6J9D2-3S46L-1U2YD

              Pictures:
              Test motor setup:
              Test Motor Setup.jpg

              Board:
              Duet 3 Board.jpg

              Drivers:
              Duet 3 Drivers.jpg

              Driver 0:
              Duet 3 Driver 1.jpg

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
                last edited by

                Does the error persist when the motor is disconnected?

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                • kdsands88undefined
                  kdsands88
                  last edited by

                  Question: Does the error persist when the motor is disconnected?
                  Answer: Yes.

                  Resistor cracked.JPG

                  Please see above picture.

                  Please confirm you see the C38 and C36 resistors are cracked.

                  Is this the issue?

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User @kdsands88
                    last edited by

                    @kdsands88 said in Duet 3 warranty process - Error: Short-to-ground on drivers 0:

                    Please confirm you see the C38 and C36 resistors are cracked.

                    good call highlighting that, I took it to be the same fibers as scattered around the board. they can crack due to thermal stesses, but think we'll leave the judgement to dc42 and/or t3p3tony

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                    • kdsands88undefined
                      kdsands88
                      last edited by

                      Sorry, bad quality picture.

                      New picture does not show cracks:
                      No Resistor cracked.jpg

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                      • kdsands88undefined
                        kdsands88
                        last edited by

                        Please confirm you will honor your warranty?

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                        • A Former User?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          You have read https://www.duet3d.com/warranty and the section about incorrect wiring?

                          To me it sounds like you should be singing your praises that having shorts in the wiring harness only damaged one driver instead of making demands; or at the very least pick another approach to elicit some goodwill.

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                          • kdsands88undefined
                            kdsands88
                            last edited by

                            bearer are you speaking for Duet 3D?

                            I work for Ford Motor Company, and I understand my rights as a customer.

                            Please stop speaking down to me.

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                            • A Former User?
                              A Former User @kdsands88
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                              @kdsands88 said in Duet 3 warranty process - Error: Short-to-ground on drivers 0:

                              bearer are you speaking for Duet 3D?

                              in no way what so ever.

                              I understand my rights as a customer.

                              see the above.

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                              • kdsands88undefined
                                kdsands88
                                last edited by

                                Speaking to Duet 3D: Does bearer speak legally for Duet 3D? If not, please block bearer from posting on my official warranty claim.
                                I am seeking warranty advice from Duet 3D only.
                                Thanks,

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @kdsands88
                                  last edited by

                                  @kdsands88 we have a lot of helpful users on this forum (especially @bearer ), please respect the friendly environment we are trying to engender here.

                                  It looks like the initial miswiring has damaged Driver 0 so it still works, but reports the error. Normally that would not qualify as a warranty return, however in this case we will make an exception so we can get the board back and look at the damage.

                                  Please upload your config.g file to this thread so we can see the current used etc.

                                  Separately the way the board is mounted in your test setup concerns me. the brass nuts look large enough to overlap the edge of the keepout area around the mounting holes and could wear through the solder resist on the board over repeated fitting. Its not possible to see if you are using the supplied nylon washers to insulate the standoff and nuts from the board but i would recommend using a different mounting solution with female standoffs and small head M4 socket cap screws. See: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Mounting_and_cooling_the_board?#Section_Mounting

                                  www.duet3d.com

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