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    Bloodember
    last edited by Bloodember 9 Oct 2020, 06:28 10 Sept 2020, 06:27

    Ok, it is an E3d PT100, I ordered it from Filastruder.com, it does have red wires.

    I have found the problem, not sure what's the issue though. I have a duet3d Smart effector, I tested the PT100 at the connector, before plugging into effector, I get 110ish, checked at the top connection, that goes to the wiring harness, I get nothing. It seems the effector traces are broke or something, I have no idea. There's something about jumpered for 2 wire by it, no pictures show anything about that, nor dooes duets instructions. Anyone have any ideas?

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      jay_s_uk
      last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 06:35

      I have a smart effector and I am using a PT100. I can confirm that pins T2 and T3 should be used when connecting the smart effector to the duet. I have used fairly thick wires (AWG18 I think) to ensure there is a good connection.
      You have the correct jumpers in place on your daughter board

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        Bloodember @jay_s_uk
        last edited by Bloodember 9 Oct 2020, 06:57 10 Sept 2020, 06:54

        @jay_s_uk
        Yes, they are in the picture above. I'm also using pins T2 and T3, the connector is working I checked the soldering points on top of said connector and I got 110 ohm, just nothing at the top connection.

        Edit: I also verified I am on firmware 3.1.1, M155 is not the command though, its M115.

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          jay_s_uk
          last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 07:04

          I would suggest you have a dodgy crimp or a break in a cable between the smart effector and the daughter board.
          Use your multimeter to check the cable. You should have a low resistance on each one.

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            Bloodember
            last edited by Bloodember 9 Oct 2020, 07:08 10 Sept 2020, 07:07

            @jay_s_uk
            No, the wiring is good. I'm getting resistance at the black connector on the bottom of the effector, but not on the top white connector on the top of the effector.

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 07:09

              Are the pins of the white connector all soldered to the PCB? That connector is hand soldered, so it's not impossible that pins are missed.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                Bloodember @dc42
                last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 07:18

                @dc42 Yes, they are all there and solid.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Bloodember
                  last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 16:56

                  @Bloodember said in Pt100 reading 2000C:

                  Edit: I also verified I am on firmware 3.1.1, M155 is not the command though, its M115.

                  sorry about that.

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 16:57

                    Photo of the effector? is there a damaged trace?

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                      Bloodember @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 18:00

                      @Phaedrux With the green coating I can't see any traces. I don't see any damage. What areas do you need pictures of.?

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 18:03

                        Front and back if possible, maybe a close up of the PT100 connection.

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                          Bloodember @Phaedrux
                          last edited by Bloodember 9 Nov 2020, 05:23 11 Sept 2020, 05:22

                          @Phaedrux Here is a top one and two bottom ones. top.jpg bottom1.jpg bottom2.jpg

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                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 17:08

                            The pins don't look too bad, but if you're unable to read the PT100 from the back side of the pins on the effector something isn't making a connection obviously.

                            When and where did you purchase the Smart Effector?

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                              Bloodember @Phaedrux
                              last edited by Bloodember 9 Nov 2020, 22:29 11 Sept 2020, 21:54

                              @Phaedrux filastruder.com, Aug 2019. Life happened and I didn't get to putting the rest of my printer together till now.

                              Edit: I also have the z bed leveling hooked up through that connector also, just haven't got far enough with the setup to see if that is working or not.

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                                Bloodember @Phaedrux
                                last edited by 14 Sept 2020, 18:19

                                @Phaedrux ?

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by 14 Sept 2020, 18:52

                                  So the PT100 itself measures ok at the connector end?
                                  And the wire going from the smart effector to the daughter board tests ok?
                                  It's only when the PT100 is connected to the smart effector that you can't get a reading off the back side of the connector pins?

                                  Can you get a close up of the PT100 connector on the smart effector with it disconnected?

                                  It's out of warranty period unfortunately, as it's 6 months, but hopefully it's not unfixable. Might just need to reflow the back side of the pins on the smart effector. If we can't get it sorted out we might be able to do an exchange at a reduced price, but would depend on availability.

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                                    Bloodember @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by Bloodember 15 Sept 2020, 06:13

                                    @Phaedrux said in Pt100 reading 2000C:

                                    So the PT100 itself measures ok at the connector end?
                                    And the wire going from the smart effector to the daughter board tests ok?
                                    It's only when the PT100 is connected to the smart effector that you can't get a reading off the back side of the connector pins?

                                    Can you get a close up of the PT100 connector on the smart effector with it disconnected?

                                    It's out of warranty period unfortunately, as it's 6 months, but hopefully it's not unfixable. Might just need to reflow the back side of the pins on the smart effector. If we can't get it sorted out we might be able to do an exchange at a reduced price, but would depend on availability.

                                    Sorry for the delay, I work 2nd shift and I'm eastern standard time.

                                    1.So the PT100 itself measures ok at the connector end? Yes

                                    1. And the wire going from the smart effector to the daughter board tests ok? Yes

                                    2. It's only when the PT100 is connected to the smart effector that you can't get a reading off the back side of the connector pins? Yes, I get no reading from the white connector.

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                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 08:31

                                      Hi @Bloodember, thanks for your patience. Would you like a warranty replacement? The warranty is normally 6 months, but I will make an exception as your Smart Effector may have a manufacturing defect.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        Bloodember @dc42
                                        last edited by Bloodember 15 Sept 2020, 16:53

                                        @dc42 Yes, that would be great. Thank you. What all do you need?

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Bloodember
                                          last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 17:30

                                          @Bloodember said in Pt100 reading 2000C:

                                          What all do you need?

                                          Please contact filastruder and refer them to this thread as authorization for replacement.

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