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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      do post your final config for another check

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        Turbo @Veti
        last edited by

        @Veti Its been through some revisions so theres some leftover code that i keep incase i revert back.

        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.20 or newer)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Thu Jun 21 2018 19:14:32 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
        
        ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        ; General preferences
        G90                               ; Send absolute coordinates...
        M83                               ; ...but relative extruder moves
        
        M667 S1                           ; Select CoreXY mode
        
        ; Network
        M550 PBlue the D-Bot              ; Set machine name
        
        M552 S1                           ; Enable network
        M586 P0 S1                        ; Enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0                        ; Disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0                        ; Disable Telnet
        
        ; Drives
        M569 P0 S1                     		     ; Drive 0 goes forwards
        M569 P1 S1                     	         ; Drive 1 goes forwards
        M569 P2 S1                      	     ; Drive 2 goes forwards
        M569 P3 S0                     	         ; Drive 3 goes forwards
        M569 P4 S1                      	     ; Drive 4 goes forwards
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1		       		 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X100 Y100 Z423 E394 ; :870(E2)       ; Set steps per mm (Start:Z415) (chimera value 870)
        M566 X1000 Y1000 Z240 E600:600       	 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) (OG E600:600)
        M203 X18000 Y18000 Z2400 E3600:3600 	 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X1250 Y1250 Z250 E2000:2000     	 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1000 E850:850 I50 	 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in percent
        M84 S30                           		 ; Set idle timeout
        
        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X-10 Y-10 Z0 S1                ; Set axis minima (chimera/original  y value = 0)
        M208 X300 Y185 Z300 S0            ; Set axis maxima
        
        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 Y2 S3                     ; Set endstops controlled by motor load detection
        
        ; Z-Probe
        M574 Z1 S2                        ; Set endstops controlled by probe
        M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
        M558 P9 H5 F750 T7200
        G31 X25.9 Y0 Z02.3 P25             ; Probe Offset - Increase for Nozzle down, Decrease for Nozzle up (chimera value .6)
        M557 X26:280 Y5:185 S50:45           ; Define mesh grid
        
        ; Heaters
        M305 P0 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700    ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
        ;	Heater 1
        M143 H0 S110                      ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 110C
        M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 R4700    ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
        M143 H1 S275                      ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C
        								  ;	Heater 2 (disable for Titan Aero)
        ;M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700   ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
        ;M143 H2 S275                     ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 275C
        
        ; Fans
        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1            ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M106 P1 S165 T55 H1:2      	  	  ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M106 P2 S0 I0 F500 H-1            ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
        
        ; Tools
        M563 P0 D0 H1                     ; Define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                  ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0                      ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        
        ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        ; Next 3 lines are for Chimera config. Disabled for Titan Aero
        ; IMPORTANT: Titan Aero Thermistors are swapped at the board. Swap them back for Chimera Use. NOT THE CASE FOR V2
        ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        ;M563 P1 D1 H2                     ; Define tool 1
        ;G10 P1 X9 Y0 Z0                   ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
        ;G10 P1 R0 S0                      ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        
        ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
        
        ; Custom settings are not configured
        
        ; Miscellaneous
        T0                                ; Select first tool. Change to T-1 for use with Chimera
        

        Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
        Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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        • Turboundefined
          Turbo @Turbo
          last edited by

          @Turbo For fun heres my other printers config file running rrf3 if you want to rifle through it

          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Thu Apr 16 2020 15:52:25 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
          
          ; General preferences
          G90                                                     ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83                                                     ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"CCPrinting"                                      ; set printer name
          
          ; Network
          
          M552 S1                                                 ; enable network
          M586 P0 S1                                              ; enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0                                              ; disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0                                              ; disable Telnet
          
          ; Drives
          M569 P0 S1                                              ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
          M569 P1 S1                                              ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
          M569 P2 S0                                              ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
          M569 P3 S1                                              ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                        ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z400.00 E390.00                       ; set steps per mm (Currently 2x for 0.9 Steppers on X & Y)
          M566 X700.00 Y700.00 Z12.00 E120.00                     ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z1200.00 E3000.00              ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X800.00 Y800.00 Z100.00 E5000.00                 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X700 Y700 Z700 E855 I30                            ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30                                                 ; Set idle timeout
          
          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X-3.5 Y0 Z0 S1                                     ; set axis minima
          M208 X200 Y200 Z140 S0                                  ; set axis maxima
          
          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 S3                                              ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
          M574 Y1 S3                                              ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
          M574 Z1 S2                                              ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
          
          ; Z-Probe
          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F750 T7200  					; BLTouch connected to Z probe IN pin
          M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"				       			    ; create servo/gpio 0 on heater 3 pin on expansion connector
          G31 P500 X55 Y10.58 Z1.2                               	; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height Increase for Nozzle down, Decrease for Nozzle up
          M557 X55:197 Y20:190 S71:85                             ; define mesh grid
          
          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950          ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                                   ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M143 H0 S120                                            ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0                                                 ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M143 H1 S280                                            ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
          
          ; Fans
          ;M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                                   ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
          ;M106 P0 C"SHORTED DO NOT USE" S0 H-1                   ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          ;M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                   ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
          ;M106 P1 C"SHORTED DO NOT USE" S0 H-1                   ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500                                    ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
          M106 P2 C"Part Cooling Fan" S0 H-1                      ; set fan 2 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          
          ; Tools
          M563 P0 S"Hemera" D0 H1 F2                              ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                         ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0                                            ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          ; Custom settings are not defined
          M501
          
          ; Miscellaneous
          T0                                                      ; select first tool
          

          Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
          Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @Turbo
            last edited by

            @Turbo said in Identical artifacts/issues on two parts on the same print job:

            Z1000

            is your z motor a different motor?

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            • Turboundefined
              Turbo @Veti
              last edited by Turbo

              @Veti its a 5:1 geared stepper motor. 17hs15-1684s-pg5
              https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/nema-17-stepper-motor-bipolar-l38mm-w-gear-raio-51-planetary-gearbox-17hs15-1684s-pg5.html

              Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
              Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                @Turbo said in Identical artifacts/issues on two parts on the same print job:

                17hs15-1684s-pg5

                set that to 1200

                you should got for around 75% of the stated current.

                how heavy is your bed, that you need 5:1 stepper drivers?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @Turbo
                  last edited by

                  @Turbo said in Identical artifacts/issues on two parts on the same print job:

                  Z423

                  I dont understand this value. that just feels wrong.

                  what kind of leadscrew do you have?

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                  • Turboundefined
                    Turbo @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti it's not too heavy. Approx 300x 200y, with some 2040 extrusions. Main reason is the z axis is belted rather than leadscrews

                    Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                    Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      assuming you have a gt2 setup with 20 teeth
                      motor is 5.18:1
                      that would be 414.4

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                      • Turboundefined
                        Turbo @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti im not sure the exact gearing, but it does drive-->middle pulley, out to two more pulleys on either side. let mee if i can count the teeth

                        Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                        Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          it says so on the spec page you linked

                          Gear Ratio: 5.18: 1

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                          • Turboundefined
                            Turbo @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti not of the motor, im not sure it uses all 20t pulleys, there might be a combo of different counts

                            Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                            Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @Turbo
                              last edited by

                              @Turbo
                              only the one on the motor counts.

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                              • Turboundefined
                                Turbo @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti oh okay. let me try that value and see what comes of it

                                Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                                Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                                • Turboundefined
                                  Turbo @Turbo
                                  last edited by Turbo

                                  @Veti printed a 20mm cube at .35layer height. Slicer says it will be a final product of 20.15. actual is 20mm on the dot.

                                  Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                                  Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    I think the problem is cold extrusion. Your thermistor settings were really off and you're printing fast and with a thicker layer height really pushing the flow rate. I think that's why the top layer looks more like strings than proper fused extrusion.

                                    Now that you have the proper thermistor settings in place I suggest you go through this guide and recalibrate your extruder and find your maximum flow rate, and from that you take your chosen layer height and width and determine your appropriate print speed.

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40

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                                    • Turboundefined
                                      Turbo @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux Just finished pid tuning and printing a square to verify settings. Will work on e steps next, although how much could it change due to a bad pid value?

                                      Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                                      Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Well it's more than just esteps, it's finding the max volumetric flow of your hotend and extruder and then adjusting your print settings to stay within that limitation.

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                                        • Turboundefined
                                          Turbo @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by Turbo

                                          @Phaedrux
                                          so far e steps look like m92 e407.42
                                          max vol flow rate calculated to be 12.04107575mm^3 / s^2
                                          Max sugg speed for .3 layer height and .6 line width with a .5mm nozzle is approx 66mm/s at 210c.
                                          still going but thought id post an update
                                          printing the box testing for flow. is it okay to use .3mm layer height du to the larger nozzle and thats what i normally print with

                                          Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                                          Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            That all sounds right to me.

                                            Compare that to your speed of 80mm/s at an unknown real temp.

                                            Sure you can use whatever layer height you would typically be printing with.

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