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    • Perttiundefined
      Pertti
      last edited by

      Ok, I put z value to 0.6 but that did not work, also -0.6 had no effect. Config.g looks like this:

      M563 P1 D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0.6 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
      G10 P2 R140 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      Pertti
      “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
      George M. Moore, Jr.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Pertti
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        @Pertti said in Lifting extruder E1 0.5mm:

        G92 X0 Y0 Z0 to pull it back to absolute coordinates

        G92 sets the current position
        G90 is absolute positioning
        G91 is relative positioning

        Are you trying to set an offset or lift the tool?

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        • Perttiundefined
          Pertti
          last edited by

          I'm trying to lift the inactive printhead while the is active is deployed.

          Pertti
          “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Does it have it's own independent z axis? What actuates the lifting?

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            • Perttiundefined
              Pertti
              last edited by

              The bed is supposed to move up a little while E0 is active. I have a separate actuator to E1, which goes up when not used.

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              • Perttiundefined
                Pertti
                last edited by

                Ok, I am lifting both bed and the other printhead. But E0 is "static" and E1 is movable. Sorry I was not clear enough.

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                • Perttiundefined
                  Pertti
                  last edited by

                  Hope this picture clarifies my idea.
                  Extruders.jpg

                  Pertti
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                  • Perttiundefined
                    Pertti
                    last edited by

                    Looks like Cura extruder starting code (absolute) has effect only in the beginning of the sift (E0---E1), It moves Z immediately back. If I use relative coordinates then the printhead runs at the opposite corner...outch!
                    Maybe it is better to provide an actuator to both hotends.

                    Pertti
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                    • Phaedruxundefined
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                      last edited by Phaedrux

                      How much travel do you have on E1? I think what you want to do should work, but I'm not sure of the best tool change code to achieve it.

                      How is E1 lifted? What is the mechanism? Does it have its own axis? Is it a servo?

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                      • Perttiundefined
                        Pertti
                        last edited by

                        Here´s the mechanism from a recycled cd-rom station.

                        1. filament input
                        2. moving sleigh
                          hotend is not in this picture, but I use cr-10 style one.
                          Now the interesting part is how to move the hotend. I think I open a new thread for that. It uses the E1 steppermotor.
                          The filament pushes the nose down when extruding.
                          The movement is around 1mm. I want to keep it as small as possible. Of course this needs many details and a lot of tuning, but I think I can make it work. I have not seen this kind of mechanism being used, so I can call it my invention. If somebody has seen this kind of solution before, please tell...
                          sleigh.JPG

                        Pertti
                        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @Pertti
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                          @Pertti said in Lifting extruder E1 0.5mm:

                          It uses the E1 steppermotor.

                          What axis have you assigned it?

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                          • Perttiundefined
                            Pertti
                            last edited by

                            No axis at all. The moving force comes by the filament. When extruding, the pressure pushes the nozzle down.

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                            • Perttiundefined
                              Pertti
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                              Axis E1 is signed to the steppermotor E1

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                So it's a passive system based on if it's extruding or not?

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                                • Perttiundefined
                                  Pertti @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux -Yes.

                                  Pertti
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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    That's very interesting, but I'm not sure how to make that work. Your original post talks about using the Z motor to move it, but I don't see how you mean to use that.

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                                    • Perttiundefined
                                      Pertti
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                                      Actually Z motor is used in the first place for "negative z-hop" for the E1 extruder, which is static. Anyway I quit that idea and moved to make both extruders dynamic. I completed the idea with 2 pc Linear Guide MGN12H.

                                      Moving nozzle1.mp4

                                      Pertti
                                      “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
                                      George M. Moore, Jr.

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                                      • Perttiundefined
                                        Pertti @Pertti
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                                        @Pertti model 6 cm.jpg
                                        Here's an example print of 6 cm x 6 cm

                                        Pertti
                                        “A winner is just a loser who tried one more time.”
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