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    chris974M
    last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 20:18

    11/10/2020 à 22:17:47 Auto tune phase 3, peak temperature was 251.1
    11/10/2020 à 22:17:19 Auto tune phase 2, heater off
    11/10/2020 à 22:16:07 Auto tune phase 1, heater on
    11/10/2020 à 22:16:02 M303 H1 S220 C8
    Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 1.00 - do not leave printer unattended

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      chris974M
      last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 20:21

      M307 H1
      Heater 1 model: gain 545.5, time constant 191.5, dead time 18.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 24.1, mode PID
      Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P3.5, I0.059, D43.9
      Computed PID parameters for load change: P3.5, I0.094, D43.9

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        chris974M
        last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:47

        nobody for helping please

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:50

          Is auto tuning successful? Are you starting from room temperature?

          How did you save the resulting values? Sending M500 saves them to config-override.g and M501 at the end of config.g loads them.

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            FBG
            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 16:30

            @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

            Dyze donne sur son site
            Thermistance 500 ° C Thermorétractable noir
            #Modification du fichier config.g
            Recherchez les paramètres suivants et remplacez les valeurs:

            The problem is the heater, not use 50w. Use 40w or 30w

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              chris974M
              last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 19:50

              Oui auto tuning ok apres autotun. M500 il enregistre bien dans config-override.g

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                chris974M @FBG
                last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 19:51

                @FBG comment changer cela

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                  chris974M @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:00

                  @Phaedrux
                  12/10/2020 à 22:00:22 Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable
                  12/10/2020 à 22:00:02 M303 H1 S220
                  Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @chris974M
                    last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:18

                    @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

                    Oui auto tuning ok apres autotun. M500 il enregistre bien dans config-override.g

                    @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

                    @Phaedrux
                    12/10/2020 à 22:00:22 Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable
                    12/10/2020 à 22:00:02 M303 H1 S220
                    Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

                    Does it work, or does it not work?

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                      chris974M
                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:27

                      now does it not work

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                        chris974M
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:27

                        Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable

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                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:38

                          I suspect that's because the high temp thermistor is less accurate at low temps. You could try preheating it a bit before starting the tuning process.

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                            chris974M @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:39

                            @Phaedrux OK i try

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                              chris974M
                              last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:41

                              12/10/2020 à 22:41:21 Auto tune phase 1, heater on

                              12/10/2020 à 22:41:15 M303 H1 S220
                              Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

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                                chris974M
                                last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:49

                                12/10/2020 à 22:48:39 Auto tune heater 1 completed in 443 sec
                                Use M307 H1 to see the result, or M500 to save the result in config-override.g
                                12/10/2020 à 22:44:26 Auto tune phase 3, peak temperature was 229.7
                                12/10/2020 à 22:44:03 Auto tune phase 2, heater off

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                                  chris974M
                                  last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:50

                                  Now i execut the command M500 and M501

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                                    chris974M
                                    last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:55

                                    Toujours des fluctuation de temp

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 21:03

                                      Ok if that successfully worked you can do as DC42 said above and edit the resulting M307 command in config-overide to increase the D value.

                                      If you have already run heater tuning and copied the resulting values into your M307 H1 command in config.g, increase the D parameter in that command until the temperature is stable when the print head is not moving. Try increasing it by 30% initially.

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                                        chris974M
                                        last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 21:10

                                        Ok je vais essayer sa

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                                          chris974M
                                          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 22:03

                                          temp. régler a 220 for test
                                          elle monte a 232 avant de descendre vraiment doucement jusqu'à 220

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