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    chris974M
    last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 20:21

    M307 H1
    Heater 1 model: gain 545.5, time constant 191.5, dead time 18.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 24.1, mode PID
    Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P3.5, I0.059, D43.9
    Computed PID parameters for load change: P3.5, I0.094, D43.9

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      chris974M
      last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:47

      nobody for helping please

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:50

        Is auto tuning successful? Are you starting from room temperature?

        How did you save the resulting values? Sending M500 saves them to config-override.g and M501 at the end of config.g loads them.

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          FBG
          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 16:30

          @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

          Dyze donne sur son site
          Thermistance 500 ° C Thermorétractable noir
          #Modification du fichier config.g
          Recherchez les paramètres suivants et remplacez les valeurs:

          The problem is the heater, not use 50w. Use 40w or 30w

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            chris974M
            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 19:50

            Oui auto tuning ok apres autotun. M500 il enregistre bien dans config-override.g

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              chris974M @FBG
              last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 19:51

              @FBG comment changer cela

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                chris974M @Phaedrux
                last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:00

                @Phaedrux
                12/10/2020 à 22:00:22 Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable
                12/10/2020 à 22:00:02 M303 H1 S220
                Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @chris974M
                  last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:18

                  @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

                  Oui auto tuning ok apres autotun. M500 il enregistre bien dans config-override.g

                  @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

                  @Phaedrux
                  12/10/2020 à 22:00:22 Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable
                  12/10/2020 à 22:00:02 M303 H1 S220
                  Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

                  Does it work, or does it not work?

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                    chris974M
                    last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:27

                    now does it not work

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                      chris974M
                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:27

                      Auto tune cancelled because starting temperature is not stable

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                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:38

                        I suspect that's because the high temp thermistor is less accurate at low temps. You could try preheating it a bit before starting the tuning process.

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                          chris974M @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:39

                          @Phaedrux OK i try

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                            chris974M
                            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:41

                            12/10/2020 à 22:41:21 Auto tune phase 1, heater on

                            12/10/2020 à 22:41:15 M303 H1 S220
                            Auto tuning heater 1 using target temperature 220.0°C and PWM 0.50 - do not leave printer unattended

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                              chris974M
                              last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:49

                              12/10/2020 à 22:48:39 Auto tune heater 1 completed in 443 sec
                              Use M307 H1 to see the result, or M500 to save the result in config-override.g
                              12/10/2020 à 22:44:26 Auto tune phase 3, peak temperature was 229.7
                              12/10/2020 à 22:44:03 Auto tune phase 2, heater off

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                                chris974M
                                last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:50

                                Now i execut the command M500 and M501

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                                  chris974M
                                  last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 20:55

                                  Toujours des fluctuation de temp

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 21:03

                                    Ok if that successfully worked you can do as DC42 said above and edit the resulting M307 command in config-overide to increase the D value.

                                    If you have already run heater tuning and copied the resulting values into your M307 H1 command in config.g, increase the D parameter in that command until the temperature is stable when the print head is not moving. Try increasing it by 30% initially.

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                                      chris974M
                                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 21:10

                                      Ok je vais essayer sa

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                                        chris974M
                                        last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 22:03

                                        temp. régler a 220 for test
                                        elle monte a 232 avant de descendre vraiment doucement jusqu'à 220

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @chris974M
                                          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 22:05

                                          @chris974M said in Dyzend Pro:

                                          temp. set to 220 for test
                                          it goes up to 232 before going down really slowly to 220

                                          If it overshoots the target, increase the A parameter. Try increasing/decreasing it by 5% or 10%.

                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control#Section_Manual_adjustments_to_the_heater_model_parameters

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