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    • BlueDustundefined
      BlueDust @jchodakowski
      last edited by

      @jchodakowski

      I am guessing the answer is no..... but is the sensor updateable?

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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      • jchodakowskiundefined
        jchodakowski
        last edited by

        Yes, it is updateable although it's a bit of a process.

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        • mitchundefined
          mitch @jchodakowski
          last edited by

          @jchodakowski can you point to the process to update the firmware?

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          • BlueDustundefined
            BlueDust
            last edited by

            bump

            how do you update the sensor?

            Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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            • jchodakowskiundefined
              jchodakowski
              last edited by

              By "a bit of a process" I meant you'll need to activate your google-fu.
              The firmware is in github and you need a pogo-pin firmware loader - the rest should be not unlike loading firmware on other simple rt devices.

              I have never seen "a documented process".

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators
                last edited by

                I have put some documentation for this here:

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet3dFilamentMonitor_RotatingMagnetVersion?#Section_Flashing_the_firmware

                www.duet3d.com

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                • mwolterundefined
                  mwolter
                  last edited by

                  I have three of the magnetic filament monitors and they also report over extrusion occasionally. From what I can tell, they most often report over extrusion on very short infill patterns. All three are version 2.0 and I would like to update them to 3.0 to see if this helps.

                  My question, is there a wiring diagram and STL for the pogo pins?

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by T3P3Tony

                    the pogo pins are a standard ISP 6 pin pinout:

                    efdf781a-a46a-4dbd-a6a3-7880e4d565f9-image.png

                    Updated the documentation to show this image.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • mwolterundefined
                      mwolter @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by mwolter

                      @T3P3Tony
                      Followed the steps to program the MFM and the ELF software file in the release-44a directory on github is v1. This is the URL of the file https://github.com/Duet3D/MagneticFilamentMonitor/raw/master/Release-44a/FilamentSensor.elf.

                      As you can see in the screenshot below, it was v2 before uploading and is now v1. Did I do something improperly? Or is there a link for v3?

                      Screen Shot 2020-10-10 at 8.39.03 AM.jpg

                      Here is the output from avrdude when uploading the file

                      C:\avrdude>avrdude.exe -pt44 -cusbtiny -Uflash:w:FilamentSensor.elf:e
                      
                      avrdude.exe: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
                      
                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.02s
                      
                      avrdude.exe: Device signature = 0x1e9207 (probably t44)
                      avrdude.exe: NOTE: "flash" memory has been specified, an erase cycle will be performed
                                   To disable this feature, specify the -D option.
                      avrdude.exe: erasing chip
                      avrdude.exe: reading input file "FilamentSensor.elf"
                      avrdude.exe: writing flash (1826 bytes):
                      
                      Writing | ################################################## | 100% 1.41s
                      
                      avrdude.exe: 1826 bytes of flash written
                      avrdude.exe: verifying flash memory against FilamentSensor.elf:
                      avrdude.exe: load data flash data from input file FilamentSensor.elf:
                      avrdude.exe: input file FilamentSensor.elf contains 1826 bytes
                      avrdude.exe: reading on-chip flash data:
                      
                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 1.14s
                      
                      avrdude.exe: verifying ...
                      avrdude.exe: 1826 bytes of flash verified
                      
                      avrdude.exe: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:DF, L:E2)
                      
                      avrdude.exe done.  Thank you.
                      

                      Also, receiving the following error when setting the fuses. Not sure if this is related. Are additional files needed to set the fuses?

                      C:\avrdude>avrdude.exe -p t44 -c usbtiny -U lfuse_w_0xe2_m -U hfuse_w_0xdf_m -U efuse_w_0xff_m
                      
                      avrdude.exe: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
                      
                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.01s
                      
                      avrdude.exe: Device signature = 0x1e9207 (probably t44)
                      avrdude.exe: NOTE: "flash" memory has been specified, an erase cycle will be performed
                                   To disable this feature, specify the -D option.
                      avrdude.exe: erasing chip
                      avrdude.exe: reading input file "lfuse_w_0xe2_m"
                      avrdude.exe: error opening lfuse_w_0xe2_m: No such file or directory
                      avrdude.exe: can't determine file format for lfuse_w_0xe2_m, specify explicitly
                      avrdude.exe: read from file 'lfuse_w_0xe2_m' failed
                      
                      avrdude.exe: safemode: Fuses OK (E:FF, H:DF, L:E2)
                      
                      avrdude.exe done.  Thank you.
                      

                      Thanks for your help.

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                      • mwolterundefined
                        mwolter
                        last edited by

                        @T3P3Tony @dc42 Can you help with this? Did I do something wrong or was v1 firmware posted by mistake?

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators
                          last edited by T3P3Tony

                          Fuse setting has an error, should be:

                          C:\avrdude\avrdude -p t44 -c usbtiny -U lfuse:w:0xe2:m -U hfuse:w:0xdf:m -U efuse:w:0xff:m

                          Looks like the colons were removed on the Dozuki site and replaced with underscores 😖 i have updated that. so should work now but I don't think that is the cause of this issue

                          please try this firmware:
                          FilamentSensor.elf

                          www.duet3d.com

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                          • mwolterundefined
                            mwolter
                            last edited by

                            @T3P3Tony
                            Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately that firmware file also reports as v1. Not sure if this makes a difference or not but Release 44a and the file you uploaded are both 32,204 bytes.

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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators
                              last edited by

                              I will have a look, which version of the filament monitor board do you have?

                              www.duet3d.com

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                              • mwolterundefined
                                mwolter
                                last edited by mwolter

                                @T3P3Tony
                                I have three and they all were purchased late 2019. This particular one was purchased November 16, 2019 from Filastruder. They all say 1.7 but I believe they are 1.7a.

                                IMG_3176.jpg IMG_3175.jpg

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                                • mwolterundefined
                                  mwolter
                                  last edited by

                                  @T3P3Tony Not sure if you saw the last post but would like to get this machine running again. Thanks!

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators
                                    last edited by T3P3Tony

                                    hi @mwolter yes those use the attiny44a so the version 3 firmware that I shared is right for that. I am very surprised that it shows up as version 1.

                                    I got a version 1.7 sensor from my spares and flashed the firmware to it (there are a few minor differences between 1.7 and 1.7a - none that should effect his but I may as well have exactly the setup you have).

                                    This is the response from a printer running RRF 2.0.5.1:daf18c35-7a1f-4d5c-9cd2-c8dcb34340ea-image.png

                                    Error code 6 is expected because i just plugged the board in no magnet to detect.

                                    The key point is its showing as version 3. This is the firmware I flashed

                                    FilamentSensor.elf

                                    please download and overwrite whatever firmware you have with this one ☝ and test again.

                                    Since it originally changed from version 2 to version 1, to me that indicates it is likely to be an issue with the firmware file being flashed

                                    www.duet3d.com

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                                    • mwolterundefined
                                      mwolter
                                      last edited by

                                      @T3P3Tony
                                      Thank you, that worked. I believe the issue was that no magnet was detected. Mounted the board in it's proper location (next to the magnet) and it reported v3. With it just plugged and hanging in it reported v1. This is a Duet3 no SBC on v3.1.1. Thanks again.

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