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    • dc42undefined
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      last edited by dc42

      @oozeBot, the config files are not relevant if you test with the tool board not connected by CAN to the main board, as I did.

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      • dc42undefined
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        Progress! It occurred to me that the version 1.0 tool board I was testing with might be a pre-production one. I happened to have a recent production one, so I just tested it with BLTouch. The BLTouch fails to self test. Now I can investigate why.

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        • oozeBotundefined
          oozeBot @dc42
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          @dc42 if it helps, here is how we've worked around the issue.. maybe there is a clue in there.

          https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/18261/bltouch-v3-1-toolboard-resolution

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          • dc42undefined
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            I've just discovered that if I disconnect the yellow servo control wire on the non-working board, then it does do a self test at power up. So I suspect it's to do with the initialisation of that pin.

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            • dc42undefined
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              I have now identified the problem. The bootloader on current production tool boards sends debug information to the servo control pin, and this is confusing the BLTouch. The boards I was using that worked had a more recent bootloader installed.

              The fix will be to install a new bootloader. At present, this can only be done using an Atmel ICE or similar tool. However, we have plans to allow the bootloader to be updated over CAN, and I will try to bring this work forward.

              @dk, who did you purchase your tool boards from?

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              • dkundefined
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                @dc42

                https://www.printedsolid.com all 3 of them

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                • dc42undefined
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                  @dk, for now are you able to use the workaround that @oozeBot linked to?

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                  • dkundefined
                    dk @dc42
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                    @dc42
                    @oozeBot
                    I add those 3 lines in my config file

                    M280 P0 S60 ; BLtouch - toggle switch mode
                    G4 P1000 ; wait 1 second
                    M280 P0 S120 ; BLtouch toggle self-test

                    , but BL-touch still does not perform self test at startup. M401 and M402 works
                    There exactly I should put these lines? Just before ; Z-Probe ?
                    Or at the top or bottom?
                    And do I need any modifications to those codes since I use Toolboard with CAN address 20, not 121?

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                    • oozeBotundefined
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                      @dk I put this at the very bottom of my config.. after defining the BLTouch.

                      Sorry I wasn’t clearer on this

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                      • Nuramoriundefined
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                        Interesting. I have a 0.6 and 1.0 board, having used 3.1.1. I noticed the self test doesn’t “work” (the pin cycle doesn’t occur) but aside from that it still probes properly, and macros to self test work once it’s powered up.

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                        • dkundefined
                          dk @oozeBot
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                          @oozeBot
                          Thank you! It performs self test now. 10 times (10 deploys and 10 retracts)

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                          • oozeBotundefined
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                            @dk Awesome! Glad to help.. this one was a bit maddening to figure out..!

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                            • dc42undefined
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                              I hope to include the facility to update the bootloader on tool boards in RRF 3.2beta3.

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                              • oozeBotundefined
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                                @dc42 said in BLTouch and Duet 3 Tool Board:

                                I hope to include the facility to update the bootloader on tool boards in RRF 3.2beta3.

                                David, did this make it into beta 3? Is so, are there any instructions on how to update the bootloader? Thanks

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                                • Vetiundefined
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                                  @oozeBot said in BLTouch and Duet 3 Tool Board:

                                  David, did this make it into beta 3? Is so, are there any instructions on how to update the bootloader? Thanks

                                  see
                                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/blob/v3-dev/WHATS_NEW_RRF3.md

                                  [Duet 3 + expansion/tool boards] Expansion and tool boards can now have their bootloaders updated via CAN using the command M122 B# S3 where # is the board address. The bootloader file is Duet3Bootloader-SAME5x.bin for the EXP3HC board, Duet3Bootloader-SAMC21.bin for the other expansion boards by Duet3D, and Duet3Bootloader-SAMMYC21.bin for the Sammy-C21 development board. These files are available at https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet3Bootloader/releases.

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                                  • oozeBotundefined
                                    oozeBot @Veti
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                                    @Veti thank you - I missed that in the release notes.. trying now.

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                                    • oozeBotundefined
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                                      @Veti

                                      Can I get a bit more clarification on what is needed to update the toolboard? I've uploaded all the .bin and .elf files to my system folder, but M122 B20 S3 is only reporting, not updating..

                                      M122 B20 S3
                                      Diagnostics for board 20:
                                      Duet TOOL1LC firmware version 3.2beta3 (2020-11-07)
                                      Bootloader ID: not available
                                      Never used RAM 4104, free system stack 96 words
                                      HEAT 43 CanAsync 88 CanRecv 82 TMC 53 MAIN 331 AIN 64
                                      Last reset 00:13:14 ago, cause: power up
                                      Last software reset data not available
                                      Driver 0: position 0, 840.0 steps/mm,  standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcount 12, reads 2901, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0, failedOp 0xff
                                      Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0
                                      No step interrupt scheduled
                                      VIN: 24.2V
                                      MCU temperature: min 40.5C, current 41.8C, max 42.1C
                                      Ticks since heat task active 2, ADC conversions started 791830, completed 791829, timed out 0
                                      Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 5 ticks ago, loop time 0
                                      Free CAN buffers: 36, messages lost 60, duplicates 0, oos 0, busOff 0
                                      
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                                      • oozeBotundefined
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                                        @veti @dc42 I think the instructions are wrong.. I just tried M997 B20 S3 and it states:

                                        M997 B20 S3
                                        Board 20 starting bootloader update
                                        
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                                        • oozeBotundefined
                                          oozeBot
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                                          I can confirm BLTouch v3.1 is now self testing on the toolboard! Thanks again!

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                                          • dc42undefined
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                                            @oozeBot said in BLTouch and Duet 3 Tool Board:

                                            @veti @dc42 I think the instructions are wrong.. I just tried M997 B20 S3 and it states:

                                            M997 B20 S3
                                            Board 20 starting bootloader update
                                            

                                            Thanks for pointing this out. I have corrected the whatsnew-rrf3 file, also I have updated https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Updating_the_bootloader_on_Duet_3_expansion_and_tool_boards.

                                            Use M122 B# to check what bootloader version is installed.

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