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    • campeancalinundefined
      campeancalin
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      I started reprinting the part to see when the layer change takes place. I did notice however that at the height of 0.4mm the part started to gain a big blob arount one of the holesIMG_0746H.jpg

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by Veti

        the nozzle could easily catch on that and cause the layer shift.

        btw what material is that? because the print quality looks very poor

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        • campeancalinundefined
          campeancalin @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti yes, I suspect that too. I am trying however to figure out what can cause that.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @campeancalin
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            @campeancalin

            post your config.g

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            • campeancalinundefined
              campeancalin @Veti
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              @Veti Bellow you have the config.g file:

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:08 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)

              ; General preferences
              G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Oscar" ; set printer name
              M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

              ; Network
              M551 P"" ; set password
              M552 S1 ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S1 ; enable FTP
              M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

              ; Drives
              M584 X1 Y0 Z2 E3:4 ; set drive mapping; INIT:X=0; Y=1; Z2;E3:4
              M569 P0 S0 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
              M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
              M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes FORWARDS
              M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes FORWARDS
              M569 P4 S0 ; physical drive 4 goes backwards

              M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation ; INIT- M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1
              M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z3200.00 E843.26:830.8 ; set steps per mm
              M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z12.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)set x and y to 600 from 900
              M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z360.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X250.00 Y250.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)x and y 250 from 500
              M906 X1100 Y1100 Z1200 E1200:1200 I80 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent changed X1200 Y1200 to X1100 Y1100
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
              ; Pressure advance
              M572 D0:1 S0.05:0.05 ; enabled Pressure advance for both extruders

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
              M208 X600 Y600 Z525 S0 ; set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop -added "! to xstop"
              M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop - added"! to xstop"
              M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

              ; Z-Probe
              M950 S0 C"duex.pwm5" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
              M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P25 X20 Y37 Z2.32 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height- changed from 3.5 to 2.19 to -0.797,to 2.23to 2.316
              M557 X40:520 Y80:520 P20 ; define mesh grid changed S20 to P3 to P20

              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S250 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
              M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
              M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
              M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 S"Tool 1" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              M563 P1 S"Tool 2" D1 H2 F1 ; define tool 1
              G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
              G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Custom settings are not defined
              M912 P0 S-16.95 ; adjustment of the MCU temp read

              ; Miscellaneous
              M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
              M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
              M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
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                @campeancalin said in 3D printin issues on a core XY equiped with a duet wifi:

                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin
                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp

                your thermistor setting is wrong. look up the correct beta value in your thermistor documentation.
                because of it you are printing at the wrong temperature.

                what material is that you are printing?

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                • campeancalinundefined
                  campeancalin @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti ColorFab XTCF20

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                  • campeancalinundefined
                    campeancalin
                    last edited by

                    the printheads are 24V E3D V6

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                    • campeancalinundefined
                      campeancalin
                      last edited by

                      after changing the B values do I have to redo the PID tunning?

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti @campeancalin
                        last edited by Veti

                        @campeancalin said in 3D printin issues on a core XY equiped with a duet wifi:

                        the printheads are 24V E3D V6

                        if they are genuine e3d then you need 2 values
                        B4725 C7.06e-8

                        This will account for about 20 degrees difference at 200C

                        i would do a pid tune, but the pid value should not change by much.

                        btw what nozzle are you using? the carbon filament will destroy a normal brass nozzle and could also account for the blobs you are seeing

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                        • campeancalinundefined
                          campeancalin @Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Veti It's not a brass nozzle ; reinfoced steel. I plan on having a look at it after it's gone thru a spool of filament.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @campeancalin
                            last edited by

                            @campeancalin said in 3D printin issues on a core XY equiped with a duet wifi:

                            reinfoced steel.

                            that is ok for wear, but very bad for temperature transfer.

                            f1aef3d2-a169-4801-aa02-f8ceaa604b0f-image.png

                            i would suggest that you print a temperature tower.

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                            • campeancalinundefined
                              campeancalin
                              last edited by

                              I have a little problem with the PID tunning. Once I've changed the values , it gives me the following error message:

                              M307 H1 S285
                              

                              Error: M307: bad model parameters

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                              • campeancalinundefined
                                campeancalin
                                last edited by

                                ; Heaters
                                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                M143 H0 S250 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
                                M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
                                M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

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                                • jay_s_ukundefined
                                  jay_s_uk @campeancalin
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                                  @campeancalin M303 is used to PID tune, not M307

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  • campeancalinundefined
                                    campeancalin @jay_s_uk
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                                    @jay_s_uk Thank you

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti @campeancalin
                                      last edited by

                                      @campeancalin said in 3D printin issues on a core XY equiped with a duet wifi:

                                      M143 H0 S250 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

                                      can you bed really reach 250C? the bed does not look like the special e3d high temperature bed. and those can reach 250, but should not be operated above 200C

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                                      • campeancalinundefined
                                        campeancalin @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti No. I've PID tunned it for a max temp of 100 C

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                                        • Stephen6309undefined
                                          Stephen6309 @campeancalin
                                          last edited by

                                          @campeancalin PID doesn't set a max temperature, the M143 does.

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                                          • theruttmeisterundefined
                                            theruttmeister @campeancalin
                                            last edited by

                                            @campeancalin
                                            Looking at the pictures, either you are over-extruding or your first layer is too low (which means you are trying to fit too much material in too little space). That causes material to push up higher than it should, and if the nozzle runs into those lumps it tends to cause layer shifts.

                                            And if you don't have one already, get a filament drier, CF filled filaments absorb moisture like crazy and need to be dried. If you look closely you might be able to see the filament bubbling as it comes out of the nozzle. Drying the filament for at least 24 hours will make a huge difference to both print quality and material strength.

                                            Isolate, substitute, verify.

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